explorer diesel?????

[snake350]

my truck explorer 1998 xlt 4L ,swap diesel is posibel? yes,what parts is best for diferentiel or transfer case or engine transmision ???? (sorry i speek frenche my english is verry limited :S )

 

[colintrax]

Possible but not easy. Do a search on here, theres a guy who did one with a 24valve cummins.

 

[snake350]

the vehicle is for a project I want to go explore a diesel auto to go play in the mud and I want to keep a cremaiere I have no idea of how to ride the mechanical parts which I should take and in what vehicle, in May with some good reusir idea I should have put everything together. google tracduction XD

 

[snake350]

I had thought was a 3.5 v6 turbo mercedes benz I board work with and I remain a premium for power drawn from the size of motor

 

[colintrax]

Ummm not sure what you said

 

[FIND]

No, it is a 4bt, and he isn't done yet, but you can find completed swaps in ranger based vehicles if you search the internets. a 24 valve 5.9 wouldn't fit in a million years.

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321521

There are other diesel engines you could cram in there, and there are pros and cons to using any of them. The question is your budget, skill level, and the amount of time you have to devote to it.

Considering you didn't have 10 seconds to devote to a search... I wouldn't say it looks promising.

 

[colintrax]

Sorry, but with enough cash you could make the 5.9 fit. May have to modify the frame, fenders, suspension, and hood but it'll fit.
And while the build isn't "done" it does run, which means it is do able.

 

[FIND]

With enough cash you could make a nuclear reactor from an Aircraft Carrier fit too. Are you going to start telling people that works too, or just acknowledge you made a minor error and confused snoranger's 4bt swap with a 24 valve cummins?

A 5.9 is physically larger than the are under the hood. Sure, you could make it fit, but you wouldn't have an Explorer anymore. I said it wouldn't fit in a million years because it would be silly. Just like when we say a new Coyote 5.0 won't fit. It isn't that you couldn't build a new frame and make it work, it is that if the people asking could do that, they wouldn't be asking. A 4bt swap is something that a backyard mechanic CAN do with time and patience.

 

[colintrax]

Yes I made a mistake? Regardless, it could fit.

 

[IAmTodd]

And still retain full functionality of the original vehicle? NO.

Get a 4BT or a tuned TDI.

 

[snoranger]

No, it is a 4bt, and he isn't done yet, but you can find completed swaps in ranger based vehicles if you search the internets. a 24 valve 5.9 wouldn't fit in a million years.

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321521

There are other diesel engines you could cram in there, and there are pros and cons to using any of them. The question is your budget, skill level, and the amount of time you have to devote to it.

Considering you didn't have 10 seconds to devote to a search... I wouldn't say it looks promising.

Hey, I know that guy who's doing the 4BT swap.



"Not in a million years"?!?!? I guess you missed this thread:
http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347671

 

[FIND]

Hey, I know that guy who's doing the 4BT swap.



"Not in a million years"?!?!? I guess you missed this thread:
http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347671

Hey, no fair. He cut out the firewall and doghouse.

Ok, I was wrong then, it isn't as bad as I thought, but still beyond what a normal backyard mechanic can easily do. But that is a 12 valve... Getting a 24 valve running in an explorer would be a bit harder a task...

Either way, I apologize colintrax. I was partially mistaken as well.

 

[colintrax]

Haha it's cool, that was the truck I was thinking about. So then who did the 4BT? Guess I'll search for it

 

[FIND]

Snoranger is doing a 4bt that I linked above, and there is a completed first gen with some information on 4btswaps.com that wasn't even lifted, and had plenty of room to keep the 4wd equipment. They didn't leave it 4wd, but I think that was a fuel economy decision. I used to have it bookmarked.

Rangers are a lot more common, and it is easier to see how to keep 4wd if you read those threads, plus, most of them are more relevant to second gen.

 

[snoranger]

Haha it's cool, that was the truck I was thinking about. So then who did the 4BT? Guess I'll search for it

Me. No need to search.... There's a link in my sig.

 

[JohnnyO]

Agree on the 4BT, probably the easiest to do. If you're able to get creative with wiring and ECU's, look for a wrecked 5 cyl Jeep diesel. Of course they didn't make very many for the U.S. market, so you might not find one. A guy at www.therangerstation.com managed to fit a GM V8 diesel in a Ranger. It's not real pretty but I've wheeled with him and the truck wasn't real pretty before the swap either but he managed to make it work. Or...sticking with Ford stuff (more or less)....an inline 6 diesel from BMW was available in the Lincoln Mk VII back in the mid-80's. I think they built about 300 of them. I'm just sayin'....

 

[snoranger]

I assume you mean bobbywalter on TRS with the 6.5l in his ranger? I've talked with him about his swap, he said it almost dropped right in. (after a bunch of cutting. )


Mercedes diesels are a popular engine swap also.

 

[JohnnyO]

I assume you mean bobbywalter on TRS with the 6.5l in his ranger? I've talked with him about his swap, he said it almost dropped right in. (after a bunch of cutting. )

Yes.
His truck was already rather cut up. :roll: Also the roof is kinda flat from, well, landing on the roof.

 

[01STrunner]

What MB diesel would be suggested? I was looking at a 4bt swap for when my engine goes but I'd like to get a little higher numbers than 100hp and 265 ft-lbs

 

[FIND]

What MB diesel would be suggested? I was looking at a 4bt swap for when my engine goes but I'd like to get a little higher numbers than 100hp and 265 ft-lbs

That's easy to do. Put more fuel in them and turn up the boost. You can make a lot more power than that on them. Most 4bts you see in bread vans or those kinds of things are tuned for 100-125 HP though. Tuning at that level is as simple as a minor adjustment in the injection pump. You don't really need much more though... All that torque takes you a long way. Having only a little horsepower on a gas engine is WAY different than having only a little horsepower on a diesel. Heck, a good chunk of the over the road trucks you see will only be outputting around 300 hp, and those things weigh around 40 tons loaded.

The MB they are talking about is the OM617. Stock, it is only 125 HP and 180 ft lbs, but over in Norway they love those things, and turn the boost and fuel way up. I'm told 150-175hp is not hard to do on them, but the 4bt is even easier to get that high. The OM617 is rev happy though, which is one of the reasons it is such a nice engine for swaps, it lives in the same RPMs as most gas engines.

The OM617 is long though. You will either need to move your radiator in front of your core support, or cut a relief in the firewall to fit it. It will fill nearly every inch between your firewall and the core support. I've measured this one more than a few times.