Tranmission issue

[Colorado1980]

Dang! Wish I saw this sooner. My 02 had same problem and there are other threads on this. Unfortunately something sounds wrong. I would scan it cause I scanned mine and came up with 2nd and 3rd out of ratio. Due to the servo rounding out I believe.

 

[05explorerXLT]

Is the reverse and drive engagement still delayed, or just jerky?

Mine would act up after a hard stop until I added still more fluid. I think the fluid sloshes forward on a hard stop and maybe this causes the operating pressure to go down as if the fluid level is low. I added fluid with the truck facing downhill slightly to simulate this low fluid condition. Also important to add the fluid shortly after having shifted through all the gears, and while the engine is running.

From what I've been through with this, I'd rather be slightly overfilled, than underfilled with the clutches slipping and jerking.

Yes, the drive and reverse engagement is delayed.

 

[deaconblues]

might be worth adding another quart to see if the symptoms improve. ez to drain out again.

 

[05explorerXLT]

I'm still confused on the whole filling procedure.

 

[deaconblues]

I'm no expert, but I think this transmission is more forgiving of slight overfill than underfill. Based on my trials with mine, it's easy to produce underfill symptoms (slipping after hard stop, delayed forward and reverse engagement) "going by the book". By having the car face downhill a little during the fill, with the engine running (and also jacking the driver's side up a little more than the passenger to get a little more clearance to crawl under), I found that I could add over an extra quart before the steady stream out the fill plug occurs. With this additional fluid, the engagement delays and slipping after a hard stop all went away.

Scouring the threads, I haven't come across one example of damage or misbehavior that was shown to be a result of overfill.

HTH.

 

[05explorerXLT]

I found it really odd that after running the truck around town for 15 minutes and pulling the center plug (while still idling) resulted in a little over a quart of old fluid being drained out. However trying to add that much back in was tedious because it was pouring out about as fast as I could pump it back in.

I have come to the conclusion that the old fluid has expanded due to heat and that is why it was over by a quart. So are you suppose to pull the center plug and top off when the engine/tranny is cold? I'm really confused.

EDIT: deaconblues, your method sounds like the best and only option on getting extra fluid in the tranny.

 

[deaconblues]

05explorerXLT, if there is a part of your driveway or some other place you can work where there is a slope, you might try filling with the truck facing downhill a bit (safely of course, strongly applied parking brake, good wheel chocks). I was surprised at how much more fluid stayed in this way as opposed to what seemed to be when on a level surface. Jacking up the driver's side a bit helps a little too (and eases crawling underneath).

The brake bleeder tubing I use is fits the center hole in the drain plug almost snugly, so it holds fluid in as it fills. Of course, it goes in under constant pressure from the weed sprayer, which I think is easier than pump/fill/pump/fill.......

FWIW, the whole story is this: got the truck not long ago with a thumpy 2-3 shift and torque converter shudder (no flashing od light though). Installed a set of the o-ringed servos, readjusted the bands (on the tighter side), and the last step is what we are discussing now -I drained and refilled using mercon V and Lubegard (friction modifier, highly recommended). The refill was trickier than I thought and it wasn't till I took the step to possibly overfill did the tranny become 100% (good shifts cold or hot, even after hard stop, no more torque converter shudder).

Best of luck!

 

[RicketyExplorer]

I had the same problem with mine after a flush I think the shop shorted it a quart or so, but I did have a bad front pump seal leak I didn't noticed for about a month.
I put in some lucas trans sealer and conditioner in it took it to a trans shop and for $35 they pumped in some fluid into it and it's been running right ever since.

 

[05explorerXLT]

Well my issue came back quickly because I'm still getting torque converter lag. I probably need to drop the pan and drain the fluid as well as put in a new filter. My best guess is that the little bit of new fluid (1/2 a bottle) that I was able to get into the tranny that didn't come pouring out when I attempted at topping off is now contaminated with old fluid and no longer has its original lubricating properties.

 

[Weekend]

Did anyone get this issue fixed? I am seeing the exact same behavior.