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Torsion twist for dummies! (pics included)

Discussion in 'Shocks, Suspensions, Lift Kits' started by 97GoldXLT, October 10, 2007.

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    1. 98Exploader

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      Alright so after reading the initial post....i still have some questions.....my explorer is a sport 2wd, you say you can go more cuz there is no more cv joints, wut would anyone recomend to stop highting to if i wanted to go more than 2".....2nd how many turns on the torsion bolt does it take to get to 2" approx. .......im hoping to do this simple lift and add a leafs for the rear and maybe 32 if theyll fit after all this....
       
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      98Exploader- It takes different numbers of turns for every one. As for how much more you can tt, you can twist as much as you want. The only problem is the more you twist the stiffer the front end gets and the harder it gets to get a good alignment.
       
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      so how did you guys do it just count how many turns on each side even the number and measure....until you got to 2" and then do the process over again if you werent there???????.........and also dont go more than 2" your saying???????
       
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      You want to measure from the ground to the top of the wheel arch before you start. Then crank until you think you are there and measure again, until you get it right. I know that many guys with 2wd have gone more than 2". Maybe someone will let use know how far before they had alignment issues.
       
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      98exploader I had forgot you can't do add-a-leafs with a sport unless you swap leafs in from a 4door model.
       
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      Yeah thats wut i keep hearing (theres only one leaf) so im gunna do shackles and a leaf pack. now i just got find some place to get shackles and leaf packs......Anyone know of a place to get these for cheap....someone mentioned a guy on ebay builds his own and sells them so may go with those
       
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      How exactly do you figure if your truck is level or not? The top of the wheel well in the back are lower..? Could using a leveler on the running board help?.. or are they naturally at an angle?
       
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      Where Do You Measure At When You Are Twisting It To See How High It Went
       
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      I just measured from the top of the tread of the wheel to the bottom of the outer fender for the first measurement and just compared

      And at storlied, I just went by looks really, You can usually tell if it's pretty level if you look at it enough
       
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      A few more Questions!
      Just to Clarify, Tightening (Clockwise) RAISES the height and loosening it lowers it, correct?
      Does anyone know how much change one full revolution of the bolt head raises or lowers the vehicle? i.e. - one turn is about 1/8" etc.??
      Great writeup! thanks!!
       
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      I have a question. Im going to do the TT to my 97XLT in a few weeks. Im also going with shackles on the rear. What size tires do you think I would be able to get in there without worrying about bad rubbing??
       
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      Ok I live on a farm and i have the necessary tools to do a TT with Shackles. I havea few ?'s...
      1.About how long does it take? (hours/mins)
      2.Where is best to measure ie wheel to wheel well, ground to wheel well, or...?
      3. How do you install the rear Shackles?

      I already have the shackles and a few days off work trying to see if it can be done in a day.
       
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      you know, I was about to ask this same question.

      Where does everybody measure to know they gained 2 inches?
      per Chiltons, to measure ride height, you take a measurement from the center of the lower control arm bushing to the ground (measurement A) and a measurement from the lowest part of the knuckle to the ground (measurement B) then take A - B = ride height
      now, stock ride height (per Chiltons) is around 4.2-4.4" (I believe?) for a NON-air suspension.

      Now... when measuring the amount of lift gained for a torsion twist, do you use this measurement, which would mean you can go to ~6" for a 2" gain?

      Reason I ask... measuring this way, I have ~1.5"
      the other day, I cranked the bars ~1/4 turn more, to make sure I'd have ample room to relieve any possible rubbing when turning.
      But, when I did this, I started feeling more vibes. I cranked them back down ~1/4", and the vibes lessened. I'm on my 3rd set of CV axles; this time they were brand new ones, rather than remanu'ed.

      I was measuring around ~5.25-5.5"
      I know the 1/4 turn didn't raise it another 0.5"
       
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      From what I have read is that 3 turns is all you need. But im curious of how to measure too. Im planning on doing this very soon. Is that true? Only three turns of the bolts is all I will need?
       
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      as many have said already the best place to measure is from the ground to the top of the arch on the wheel well. This location will give you the best indicator for each individual wheel. If you measure from suspension parts you may end up not getting a good indication of how much each wheel has been effected.
       
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      actually, I would expect the center of the hub to the wheel well, as this will not take into effect the tire height, which obviously can change with different amount of air pressure. Which also proves helpful if you don't have a paved driveway or otherwise un-even spot to park.

      I'm also curious as to what the actual ride-height measurements are for those that got a "full 2 inches"
       
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      welcome to my world all i have to park on is gravel or dirt in a barn. none of which are exactly level. with what ive read people measured from the top of the wheel to the arch of the wheel well. i have yet to try it, just too scared im going to mess something up.
       
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      Well i wouldnt measure from the top of the wheel because if your tire tread is different it wont be accurate. Measure from the center of your hub. Thats what im going to do.
       
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      yeah that makes a little more sense. also how soon after this is done should an alignment be done?
       
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      well... I'd like to add a bit.
      Measuring actual ride-height, my truck is sitting at about 5.5-5.75.
      This is >1.5" above OEM ride height (4.33-4.56)

      the angle caused by this increased ride-height is causing my CV's to cause vibes.

      just an FYI.


      the center-of-hub to bottom of fender measurement I was getting with this ride height was ~25.25", which would be ~22.25" without the body lift.
       
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      You most likely will need an alignment right after you do it. Thank god I can do it free at work cuz I have a feeling im going to be playing with this for a bit to get it right lol
       
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      now is that in turn making them go out or just vibrate really bad? bc if so you might have gone too high
       
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      uhhh... yes, I know I went too high.
       

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