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Truth be told, I bought a 2017 and thus my first ever new car, because I wouldn't settle with any other year. Every other car I've purchased in my life has generally been 2 years or more old when I bought it used, so that's special.

I like the look of the 2016+ because it has more of a Land Rover look. But the 2017 has the sync 3 which is a massive upgrade for the usability/responsiveness of the infotainment/navigation. The upcoming 2018 has a new suite of tech/safety packages, and subtle aesthetic changes.

Hah! I'm sure you'll figure it out. These first world problems can really add up! There is some merit to wanting a lighter interior color in hot weather climates, but alas seems headliner/dash is black in the Explorer no matter what. I'll never forget the time I drove my BMW with black leather...

Yep. One can't reasonably roof rack anything with just a 45lb weight limit. I had no problems at all with my potentially 120lb load. Was solid as a rock. Kayaks might be a different story. Depends on how they mount and how much clearance you have.

Thanks, that's what I was afraid of (plus what Peter said). Something special about the Explorer that allows so much mess to accumulate on the back, which is more than any other vehicle I've driven. Not end of the world, only slightly annoying. I do go through more wash than ever -- use it...

Good luck with your purchase. I'm very happy with my Explorer. So whereabouts are you? I got mine during the Ford Employee Pricing event last August in Canada and got effectively 12% off MSRP with the deal including Costco discount. Figuring out the best deal will be your next step.

I paid $104 Canadian for my first synthetic oil change along with a full inspection, rotation, and a car wash at the Ford dealer I bought my car. I'll be doing this every six months. It's good value in my book and because I've got a extended warranty, everything is getting done at the dealer. If...

@fatboyO Do you find the splash guards help at all? In particular my Explorer is prone to getting the rear camera filthy in any sort of wet conditions just by normal driving. I always have to use the rear-washer to clean it before I can back up. In dry weather, it's fine. I did a mountain pass...

Well if it helps, Smoked quartz is a new color in 2017, therefore much more unique. Magnetic has been around for years and is very common. Smoked quartz is also darker... somewhere in the middle between magnetic and black. Here's a few pics of mine in real world conditions: Right after I put...

I ended up getting Smoked Quartz after seeing it in person.. website doesn't do that color justice.

Right, sorry, my bad. I poorly summarized this article: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/adventure/red-line/the-trouble-with-turbos-why-fuel-economy-can-be-worse-not-better/article29705614/, specifically this part: Knock is destructive (imagine millions of tiny grenades exploding...

Yeah Napalm, what you say matches my experiences as well. Everything in this car is electronic settings -- sport vs regular mode, paddle shifting requests, even traction controls. In the end, everything you touch electronically feeds into the ECU and that determines how the car behaves. It is...

I'm a huge fan of the moonroof as well (opens up the interior -- I have a black interior). The adaptive cruise control I feel is must have, even though I only use that on road trips and do the vast majority of my driving in the city (over 95%). But that feature also comes with forward collision...

From personal experience (Sport/Platinum only), I find if you punch the gas pedal too aggressively while already moving at a normal speed, the acceleration can be significantly delayed and jarring. An amount of subtlety when pressing down the gas pedal results in a better overall experience. To...

Good luck. Btw, I've heard lots of general complaints about throttle body issues in these forums and all I know is it doesn't apply to the Ecoboost engines.

How about this? https://www.yourmechanic.com/article/symptoms-of-a-bad-or-failing-idle-control-valve

So to recap the thread, the new style is definitely designed to be more aero-dynamic and quiet than the older raised style. Virtually every cargo box these days from Thule/Yakima have universal crossbar mounts, but I can see how people with older roof racks might not be able to install them on...

Just throwing this out there, but could it possibly be an alternator on it's way out? Sometimes when the battery is near death, it can put an undue strain on the alternator causing that to fail too.

Having lived in England, your really going to have a hard time at the pump with an Explorer -- eats too much gas, and UK gas is so expensive! Plus isn't there some sort of gas tax based on the economy of your vehicle? Apparently the throttle body issues only affected the non Eco-boost engines...

Interesting thread. Cool about the green stickers. I ended up buying mine off a lot instead of ordering one. Had 111km on it. Was fine with that. Car works and wasn't dinged, so good enough for me. As for switch inhibit, mine's on by default. No info in Explorer manual, but the Fusion manual...

For reference, here's a couple photos of it in the well vs over the stashed seats. It covers all but 18" of space. It's more versatile than you might expect and you don't need to take it out of the car when you are using the 3rd row.

I bought my 2017 off the lot in August 2016 -- but I was test driving them in July. So perhaps sooner.

Ford absolutely copied Audi. Those Audi wheels have been out for a few years and they are on several models :) But I'm not complaining. They are nice looking wheels.

I haven't seen this either (Sync3 , 2017 Sport), but I found a couple threads talking about some sort of Navigation based hazard warning setting. I couldn't find it on mine, was curious enough to check. Now even though several of us have Sync3, it could also mean you may have a newer or older...

Hmm, I wonder if it's going to be possible to retrofit older explorers with the new 2018 quadpipes?

Damn, I stand totally corrected. The 2018's will come with a number of new tech improvements including autonomous emergency braking. https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/auto/2018-ford-explorer/preview/

Yeah, if the new autonomous emergency braking (AEB) has all the false positives of the current system, then it's going to be a problem. I'm sure there will be software settings to control sensitivity, etc. It might beep for a second or two and not actually brake until it deems it a big problem...

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I actually tried this at the dealer when I considered purchasing it because I had my doubts. Rolling it up basically converts it into a small carpet roll that is too wide to fit behind the 3rd row seats, and while I didn't try to fold it in half, my gut instinct told me that wasn't feasible at...

I bought the OEM ford 3rd row cargo protector and I highly recommend it. I'm sure there's a Husky equivalent too. It doesn't interfere with any seat fold/deploy/stashed position. I've also had the seats completely stowed and placed it on top of the flat surface -- it doesn't go all the way back...

Other than taking it into the dealer, you could check the panels, especially the one you pull out for the spare tire, and the two metal latches... make sure nothing is obscuring. When my 2017 was brand new, I had some occasional creaking sounds on the right side that were discomforting, but then...

I stand corrected. Performed the same test as Eric... and it only chimes when it initiates going down. Tried it with engine running too.

Unclear. It's possible they might need an initial training. I had the dealer install them for me. But basically what I'm saying is I took my winters off, put my summers on with rotation and everything is perfect with no need to retrain. It's possible you might not need to train them at all...

Yeah for me, I wasn't even offered the Ford Warranty. I was offered the one that deals with Fords and Audis, etc... at the dealer, not sure why. Perhaps more margin? I have a $50 deductible for fixes, but it covers basically everything (Platinum-ish level, top tier, whatever it was called).

Also I'd add, not all warranties are equal. You tend to get what you pay for (within reason). Always good to shop around for the best price if you can. $1300 for 7 years/100K miles seems too good to be true, even in the states. Even with the warranty I got up here in Canada, there were several...

No, but I should be close to that. I'll cross that threshold today on my way home. I did fill air at a gas station -- all my tires were 31-32, and after I was finished they were all 35. I had one that was over, so I let air out, and it updated correctly on the correct tire. So that rules out...

I believe mine chimes when opening if I do it from the driver seat. If I do it from the back, I don't think it chimes. Maybe it chimes if I use the foot swipe. Haven't paid attention -- but it could be contextual chiming.

Where do you live? Are you in some Eastern area like Florida or Georgia where there's tons of humidity? I've had lots of cars over the years and have pretty much lived in dry climates on the west coast. I've always kept my AC on at all times even in winter, because it prevents the mildew from...

Here's some new info for someone that bought a 2017 Explorer. Last November, I bought dedicated winter tires and rims, and had them installed at the dealer, where they programmed them. Fast forward to this past weekend, and I switched the tires out myself. I did NOT have to reprogram the tires...

Are you leasing your vehicle? If so, do you need ESP for leases?