2ndcovenant
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- 2002ExplXLT 4x4 4.0L 6cyl
Hi Folks,
First off, Thanks to everyone of you that have helped me get the truck to this stage. It has been almost two months of not being able to drive anywhere but the help from fellow forumers has been outstanding.
Background: the truck was running fine, no forewarning issues at all, until I drove down the road to a grocery store. On the way back home, I took a right turn and the truck tried to die on me. I gave it some gas and got home okay. Later that night, I had to go back to the grocery store, and one again upon leaving, the truck tried to cut off when I made a right hand turn but this time it succeeded in cutting off. I turned the key to off and turned it back to start and the engine came back up fine and I got home okay. A day later, I had to drive somewhere only this time the truck would not start. At that point, I could get the alternator to make it's back to back clicking noise but the truck refused to do more than that.
Current state: cutting through a long tale, the truck now has a new starter, new alternator, new battery, new fuel pump, and new fuel filter. Now the truck will crank and even start but almost immediately after it starts, the engine cuts off again as if it is not getting gas.
I was able to get my father, who was visiting to help on the truck, to help me get a hold of a harbor freight tools fuel pump test kit and a vacuum test kit. I don't know how to use the vacuum test kit at all. The haynes manual says that I need to test a vacuum plug somewhere near the firewall and behind the intake manifold but the only picture that it gives says that they can't even show it exactly because there is too much in the way, a "here's as close as we can get you to it" picture. As to the fuel pump test kit, it is designed to be attached to the schraeder valve which is part of the fuel rail, which is really easy to find honestly, and should be easy to read. Attach the bigger valve hose to the gauge, attach the smaller valve hose (the one that actually fits our schraeder valve) to the bigger one (using the bigger as an adapter), and then attach the other end of the smaller hose to the schraeder valve and turn the ignition switch to on (BUT not start). The gauge should read between 33 and 37 from what I have been told. The catch is that this gauge needle isn't moving at all, and this is the replacement gauge that they had to give me because the first one leaked gas all over the place. Notice what I just said though,....it leaked gas all over the place. If I take the gauge and hoses off and use a small screwdriver tip to depress the schraeder valve, gas just sprays out like mad.
From what I understand, this means that at least the pump and filter are getting gas to the engine but at this point I am at a loss. I don't know what could cause the engine to quit running right after starting. I actually had it run for about 10 seconds but only once. Most of the time, it cuts off right after it starts.
I really need some help badly.
First off, Thanks to everyone of you that have helped me get the truck to this stage. It has been almost two months of not being able to drive anywhere but the help from fellow forumers has been outstanding.
Background: the truck was running fine, no forewarning issues at all, until I drove down the road to a grocery store. On the way back home, I took a right turn and the truck tried to die on me. I gave it some gas and got home okay. Later that night, I had to go back to the grocery store, and one again upon leaving, the truck tried to cut off when I made a right hand turn but this time it succeeded in cutting off. I turned the key to off and turned it back to start and the engine came back up fine and I got home okay. A day later, I had to drive somewhere only this time the truck would not start. At that point, I could get the alternator to make it's back to back clicking noise but the truck refused to do more than that.
Current state: cutting through a long tale, the truck now has a new starter, new alternator, new battery, new fuel pump, and new fuel filter. Now the truck will crank and even start but almost immediately after it starts, the engine cuts off again as if it is not getting gas.
I was able to get my father, who was visiting to help on the truck, to help me get a hold of a harbor freight tools fuel pump test kit and a vacuum test kit. I don't know how to use the vacuum test kit at all. The haynes manual says that I need to test a vacuum plug somewhere near the firewall and behind the intake manifold but the only picture that it gives says that they can't even show it exactly because there is too much in the way, a "here's as close as we can get you to it" picture. As to the fuel pump test kit, it is designed to be attached to the schraeder valve which is part of the fuel rail, which is really easy to find honestly, and should be easy to read. Attach the bigger valve hose to the gauge, attach the smaller valve hose (the one that actually fits our schraeder valve) to the bigger one (using the bigger as an adapter), and then attach the other end of the smaller hose to the schraeder valve and turn the ignition switch to on (BUT not start). The gauge should read between 33 and 37 from what I have been told. The catch is that this gauge needle isn't moving at all, and this is the replacement gauge that they had to give me because the first one leaked gas all over the place. Notice what I just said though,....it leaked gas all over the place. If I take the gauge and hoses off and use a small screwdriver tip to depress the schraeder valve, gas just sprays out like mad.
From what I understand, this means that at least the pump and filter are getting gas to the engine but at this point I am at a loss. I don't know what could cause the engine to quit running right after starting. I actually had it run for about 10 seconds but only once. Most of the time, it cuts off right after it starts.
I really need some help badly.
