347, 4.6, 351, 5.4, SOHC, DOHC, S/C, or NA?

[Black Magic]

Ok, we all know the restrictions of the Engine bay size and normal Swaps. But if Money was wasn't really a factor. What needed to be fabed, fitted, and Shoehorned in could be. What Motor set up would you suggest. This isn't really just a pie in the sky thread. It is more of setting a goal thread.

To me I would love to have a New Generation Modular type Motor. A 5.4 DOHC S/C sounds like a winner. But I know that might now be the best way. Whoever has the info share it with the rest of us.

Don't forget, this still needs to be Streetable too.

 

[Alec]

Yup, Lightning setup doesn't sound bad at all

 

[james t]

Take the front clip off, and cut the framerails off from the firewall forward. Build new ones, and have some suspension made to work with it. Re-hang front clip and you're good to go.

BTW- I know you've seen this before, but here's a reminder of what you're up against. Keep in mind this is only a 4.6 DOHC and not a 5.4

 

[Black Magic]

Take the front clip off, and cut the framerails off from the firewall forward. Build new ones, and have some suspension made to work with it. Re-hang front clip and you're good to go.

You read my mind!

 

[Black Magic]

Oh, wouldn't the new 5.O Cammer Motor be the Sbit! Hopefully Ford watches these forums and wants to give me one!

 

[A Wise Guy]

Oh, wouldn't the new 5.O Cammer Motor be the Sbit! Hopefully Ford watches these forums and wants to give me one!

High hopes. Ford won't let go of a blend door or a rear wiper arm or a fix for a rocking seat and you want a motor? I want some of what you got. :smoke:

 

[They float]

Sounds like you want to crank some serious times out of that X!

Personally, I would go with the 5.4 or 351, both supercharged. Since an Explorer would be somewhat lacking for really high speeds, I would want a big, torquey motor to make up for that with killer holeshots. The 351 would probably be the easiest. Off topic, but I know a guy right now who's doing a 302-351 stroker for his Mustang.

I'm not very "in the know" about the 347, so I'll leave that to older, wiser heads.

The 4.6 DOHC is a runner up, but they seem a bit too rev-happy for use in a truck. The 4.6 DOHC in my Lincoln is fun in an aerodynamic car, but I wouldn't want it in a truck. 70-130mph bonzai runs aren't exactly a flying bricks' specialty, and you'd need some seriously short gears to have good holeshots. Streetable, yes, but only if you don't do much highway driving.

One more thing- have you considered a big block? First, you'd have to check your local laws. You know that, I'm sure. That aside, if you can fit one of those modular motors, you could probably fit a BB with some creative mounting and fabrication. Ever seen one of those modulars out of the engine bay? HUGE, in physical size it's way bigger than the 302. You could go N/A on a big block, so you wouldn't have to worry about supercharger rebuilds or snapping the belt. No parasitic drain from a supercharger is also a plus.



Btw, if what I just said is totally retarded, tell me. I like to learn.
(that sure makes my post sound credible, doesn't it?)

 

[Alec]

A 347 or the right 351 swap would be much much easier than the OHC's of course; and you could probably build the same power pretty easily (Troll).

So how much of this thread is gonna be pipe dream and how much not?

 

[rydinhigh]

My goal is to put the powerdyne blower on my 302 thats in my truck. The 302 that I have in my garage will be getting bored and stroked to a 347 and will be pretty built up. Then I will put the powerdyne on the 347 run a 9lb pulley and go mustang hunting.

 

[terdrocket]

Hey Black Magic,

I take it from this thread that you don't have the sohc blower on yet?
Did things fall through?

 

[Troll]

If I had to do it all over again it would be a NA 351 bored and stroked to 410 ci. Big heads and lots of cubes would make around 525 hp on motor plus about 300 in juice would not hurt.

 

[rocket 5979]

Well I am going to be going with a 5.0 SOHC forged stroker motor based off of the 4.6 mustang GT engine. Running a KB 1.7L at 14-15 psi. Built 4R70W tranny if Lentech doesnt offer something for the new 5 speed autos (new stang GT) by then that can handle the beating this will take. Live axle swap most likely, unless I can get away with running my IRS and not killing my halfshafts.



But if I had it to do with alot more money then I would definately go with a billet 5.0 stroker DOHC, matched with twin T52 turbo's. Would make 900-1000 rwhp NP. Mate that to one heck of a built tranny from Level-10 or Lentech, swap a solid rear axle in there, get custom tuned suspension, Centerline rims with some nice wide rear slicks, Oh yeah and a roll cage from he11 too! Streetable(depends on what your version of that is) and very fun. Realistically this would be waaaaaaaaay out of most,...if not all peoples price range. I willl just stick with my goal of around 550-600 rwhp from the setup I have planned when I get back.