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99 5.0 Misfire - need help!

xxfonziexx

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99 Mountaineer AWD
Hi,

I'm new here, but I could really use some advice. I have a '99 Mountaineer 5.0 AWD with a misfire problem. It's always cylinder 1 (code 0301), and occasionally I've gotten a "bank one too lean" code out of it too. I suspect that might have been a result of the misfiring cylinder (1/4th of that cylinder bank isn't burning anything, so there's 25% more air coming out of the exhaust than there should be).

Here's what I've done so far: New plugs and wires, no change. It didn't make much sense, but new coil pack with no change. Checked that the plug was sparking and it looked was, and it's a good strong spark because I got my hand a little too close to the plug end of the wire when I had it off and it zapped me from a distance. :)

I decided it probably wasn't a spark issue and moved on to fuel. I replaced the fuel injector in cylinder one with no change, and then pulled the battery to make it forget it's fuel trim with no change.

Fuel pressure is around 60 psi off, a few psi lower while running. Compression check of cylinder one matched a couple of other cylinders almost exactly (didn't bother to check them all). Vacuum is steady around ... 18 inches of mercury maybe? Can't remember the number now. Drops down sharply when gas is hit and then comes back up. Almost no fluctuation while running.

The engine seems fine mechanically, it's sparking good and strong, and it has a new fuel injector. What could possibly be left that would make only one cylinder misfire?

I'm going to drop a new fuel filter in it tonight after work (can't see any reason for it to change anything thought). The only other thing I can think of is an electrical problem in that injector circuit. I'm going to see if I can hear it firing with a stethoscope tonight, and pull the connector and stick a mulitmeter into it if I can't.

Assuming it's being triggered, can anyone recomend a next step? I'm seriously frustrated at this point. :mad:
 



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A code P0301 may mean that one or more of the following has happened:

Faulty spark plug or wire
Faulty coil (pack)
Faulty oxygen sensor(s)
Faulty fuel injector
Burned exhaust valve
Faulty catalytic converter(s)
Running out of fuel
Poor compression
Defective computer

Did you unhook the battery and see if the code came back? If you have, my next step would probably be to check the o2 sensors on that side and the cat....
 






I would check compression in that cylinder. I would say you pretty much eliminated everything else.
 






Sticking valve?

You said that your compression was normal, you have spark and you've replaced the fuel injector. The only thing I can think of is a sticking valve. If you're about due for an oil change I would add engine flush engine and then change the oil.
 






Compression was good. I don't remember what it was, but it matched the other cylinders that are all firing just fine.

Faulty spark plug or wire - replaced
Faulty coil (pack) - replaced
Faulty fuel injector - replaced
Poor compression - Checked and looked good

Burned exhaust valve - Would this have affected my compression reading?

Faulty oxygen sensor(s)
Faulty catalytic converter(s) - I don't think there's any way for either of these to just kill one cylinder...

Running out of fuel - Fuel pressure looked good. I'm replacing the filter tonight (if I can find a fuel line tool that fits on my way home. Mine doesn't). I guess the screen on the pump could be clogged, but it seems like I should see other issues than just one dead cylinder.

Defective computer - I hadn't thought of this, but I guess it's possible.

Thanks for the help so far. I'm losing my mind with this thing now.
 






You said that your compression was normal, you have spark and you've replaced the fuel injector. The only thing I can think of is a sticking valve. If you're about due for an oil change I would add engine flush engine and then change the oil.

I would have thought that a sticking valve would show some kind of problem for my compression test, but it's certainly worth a shot. I am just about due for an oil change... Thank you!
 






I would have thought that a sticking valve would show some kind of problem for my compression test, but it's certainly worth a shot. I am just about due for an oil change... Thank you!

A sticking valve will definatley show up in a compression test.
 






OK, that's it. I'm stumped. I can hear the injector clicking with a stethoscope (sounds just like the other ones.) I replaced the fuel filter, ran some Seafoam through the vacuum system. Still not working. :censored: I even tried a second new plug and another plug wire.

I'm dropping it off friday morning and paying someone to figure it out. The guy at the shop recommended checking for intake leaks with carb cleaner, so I'll probably give that a shot before friday gets here.

Any other thoughts?
 






hey xxfonziexx what did the shop say im having the same problem and curios
 


















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