Anyone ever tried this mod for MPG or a lil HP?

[Ross-N-Chicago]

Ad in Poplular Mechanics Or is this just like the Tornado??

 

[Creager]

this thing looks stupid like the rest of them

put water into your cylinders, yeah clean that carbon, lets see how long your seals last.

actually i dunno, ive heard of water actually making more HP when used with a blower...

 

[Hectanooga]

Well, it looks too good to be true...

I call BS.

 

[smiley1]

It will help some. May not be as drastic as they say. A lot of folks use water injection to fight knock retard on forced induction applications. I may be getting water injection for my GTP sometime.

 

[Charlie's_93EB]

Typical Installation on a '95 Porsche 928 with 5.7L engine that
is also utilizing a Nitrous system.

BS

 

[gijoecam]

BS

Actually runnign water injection in a highly modified engine isn't un-heard of. In a stock engine? No freakin' way!

As this mixture goes into the combustion chamber a marvelous thing happens - a chain reaction. All carbon starts immediately being removed inside the engine to the same state it was in when it was new. This happens because hot carbon and water don’t mix, somewhat like nitro colliding with glycerine and small carbon deposits going by valve seats and helping to break off other deposits...giving a clean sweet machine with a much higher compression ratio and a more complete burning of fuels,

How does it remove the carbon, exactly? It's not exactly soluble in water, and it's definately not soluble in fuel, otherwise it would already be gone.

It’s been well known for many years, and still is today, that the steam engine is the most powerful of all engines and still used on aircraft carriers for catapulting jet fighters off the carrier. Also, the water injection was used on the P-38 fighter planes during WW II and at their high altitudes gave the engine a whopping 68% more horse power. Therefore, at 2500 feet above sea level you could expect 38% more horse power; of course, that does depend on the condition of the engine and how well it has been tuned.

By that rationale, for people living at sea level, they'll get no performance gain out of it? Does that mean people in Death Valley will actually LOSE HP with it? Too bad the gains are not a linear relationship like they want us to believe.

It was done on the planes to increase the oxygen levels in the engine for long distance flights. NO2 does the same thing, but water is more readily available albeit with a weight penalty, and it's nowhere near as effective.

helping to break off other deposits...giving a clean sweet machine with a much higher compression ratio

Wouldn't removing carbon deposits from the combustion chamber make the combustion chamber larger, thereby lowering the compression ratio?

More horse power and a higher torque range. This also helps keep the oil cleaner and helps to maintain oil viscocity because of the absence of bi-products of unburned fuel and carbons that can contaminate the oil.

How can generating more power actually reduce oil contamination?? Maybe by the cleaner burn, if in fact it burns more completely and efficiently.... maybe....

It produces hydrogen-rich bubbles before being introduced into the engine draft.

And it does this, ummm, how? Maybe some type of kinetic electrolysis generator? Last I checked, it takes a pretty decent amount of electricity to split water molecules. Additionally, you're left with the oxygen. What happens to all the oxygen?

After this it becomes an even more highly enriched hydrogen as it collides with hot metals and combustion and it drops the engine combustion temperature down. Now the engine timing can be advanced up to 7 degrees over factory specifications, if so desired.

Maybe someone can explain what exactly "highly enriched hydrogen" is and explain how exactly contact with carbon makes it "even more highly enriched"??

an ultra-sonic barometric pressure chamber giving off ultra-sonic frequencies which in turn are splitting the hydrogen from the oxygen creating hydrogen-rich bubbles and hydrogen gases.

Oh, now it makes sense..... ever seen one of those fog machines at a high school dance? It kinda sounds like one of those thingies. Who'd've thunk that my DJ's fog machine was good for 25% better fuel economy?!!?

I'm not buying it..... I've heard that water injection can be useful on a highly modified engine, but on a stocker? I've got my doubts. My wallet's staying in my pocket on this one.

-Joe

 

[Creager]

haha

 

[Ross-N-Chicago]

Love the responses and just confirming my own suspicions. Thanks guys...

 

[RayLCC]

My invention is about to hit the market pretty soon: Cola injection! That's right. ever heard the story that if you left a tooth in a cup of cola overnight it will completely dissolve? Well, that's what my Cola injection does to carbon build-up. Just dissolves it away giving you a 300% increase in torque, 900000% increase in horsepower and a whopping 26million percent increase in fuel economy. Yes ladies and gentlemen I have created the "Everlasting Gobbstopper" of fuel additives! Fill your tank once and never fill it again! It also slices, dices, jullienes fries by the thousands and removes stubborn skid-marks from your under-britches as your pistons and valves are marinated in a pleasant cola bath like a cute blonde in a hot-tub. Who will undoubtedly find you erresistable for using this product!

 

[snocross1985]

Sounds like some good ideas brewin in your head, Ray. BUT! The real question is how much seat of the pants HP will I get from your cola injection?

 

[RayLCC]

oh... well... this is all testing done in lavatory conditions on highly modified '58 Edsels and nitro-powered Chevy Chevettes. Actual "seat of the pants" horsepower will drop significantly as your engine hydrolocks from having cola poured into the cylinders causing your gas to last indefinitely. The part about the under-britches... that's all true though.

 

[RayLCC]

mind you, we are required to disclose that the blonde may need to be inflated before she finds you irresistible for using this product.

 

[snocross1985]

oh... well... this is all testing done in lavatory conditions

Lavatory conditions, eh? I'm not even gonna touch this one



Note to self......inflate blonde before desire will occur.....


lol

 

[RayLCC]

Note to self......inflate blonde before desire will occur.....


lol

Story of my life...

 

[jimbo74]

water injection isnt a new thing, and doen properly it is a great thing... however that kit above is crap, jsut like the tornado... but i would rather say my car has water injection than a air spinner

 

[gijoecam]

oh... well... this is all testing done in lavatory conditions on highly modified '58 Edsels and nitro-powered Chevy Chevettes. Actual "seat of the pants" horsepower will drop significantly as your engine hydrolocks from having cola poured into the cylinders causing your gas to last indefinitely. The part about the under-britches... that's all true though.

Actually what would probably happen is that the sugars in the cola would heat up, and does anyone know what you get from heating up sugar? (C'mon and think back to that jr. high science class......)

Carmel.

Yep, it would likely turn to carmel in the combustion chamber. You thought you had a carbon problem before you added the cola?

I bet the exhaust would smell sweet though.

-Joe

 

[nascar_intimid]

does that mean the catalytic converter will produce cotton candy??? where do I order again

 

[Interstate]

I thought when you burn sugar it produces some deadly gas?

 

[jimbo74]

burning of anything creates deadly gas....

sugar will melt long before it burns and in a realtively low temperature liek that of a vehicle engine all it will do is turn sugar into syrup.....

 

[etc]

Reading it it seems like seafoaming it with out the seafoam. Wasn't there a thread on cleaning the engine with water instead of seafoam? Sounds like it's just a water drip running 100% of the time.