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[E.B. Cornburner]

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<--- guess what that has (it starts with a K and ends with a N )

But not as delivered stock from the factory, I'll bet.

 

[CDW6212R]

The Amsoil Eaa series have grabbed my attention. IIRC they're made by Donaldson, right? They've always made great products for heavy-duty vehicles.

I'm just a bit concerned about how you're supposed to clean them...Vacuum them off with a Shop-Vac? That actually works??!? I can't see it getting much of the dirt that's embedded into the media out, but rather just the larger surface dirt, which really doesn't pose that much of a restriction. If the media is loaded with microscopic particles, vacuuming it certainly couldn't get much of it back out, as far as I can see.

The filter catalogs that come with the Amsoil stuff has Wix and Donaldson products in them, good stuff.

Ask Al for a picture of his air filter, I'm sure he has enough mileage to show how they hold up. Mine is only about 10,000 miles and 9 months old. I bought a large EA-4591 for my V8, it's huge.

 

[E.B. Cornburner]

I get my Wix products from Carquest...Avoids Amsoil's extra little markup. Amsoil used to carry Hastings full line of filters before they started with their own branded line. Interesting that they switched to Wix.

I've never been much of an Amsoil (the actual oil itself) fan, but certain products they carry are pretty decent.

 

[tower]

But not as delivered stock from the factory, I'll bet.

The cars not stock it has two hair dryers on it with two of those filters that only let contaminants in and offer no performance gain.

 

[CDW6212R]

The cars not stock it has two hair dryers on it with two of those filters that only let contaminants in and offer no performance gain.

Then why not run two open stacks with no air filters, that gets you the maximum air flow? The answer is because that adds even more dirt to the oil.

 

[tower]

Then why not run two open stacks with no air filters, that gets you the maximum air flow? The answer is because that adds even more dirt to the oil.

Well if you can't tell sarcasm then I am not sure I can help you.

The filters on the car work very well. To be honest the 02 gets really no gain from them or any filter for that matter, as long as it filters good and does not come apart its good.

On my 94 though on back to back to back to back runs (after a warm up run and cool downs between each run) the K&N's gained ~5hp. In the real world I did back to back to back to back runs in the 1/4 and gained ~2mph. I never noticed a difference on a road course but I can never seem to get two close times with out changes LOL. There are a few SCCA drivers that run K&N and I know no one that had an motor fail due to contaminates that a fliter may pass.

 

[E.B. Cornburner]

In all reality, nobody here will probably ever have an engine failure becuase of K&N filters passing too much dirt. I'd just rather filter out more of it is all.

 

[crash594]

I might worry about it more in I was playing in sasnd dunes or drove inextreamly dusty area. I look at it this way. I am using a better filter than piston aircraft and outboards dont evan use a filter. I know its on the water but there is still dust in the air. I know I am sucking better air than they are and if you are following factory maintenance you should not have an issue. All my cars, trucks and SUV's have all exceeded 150000 to 250000 miles. before selling them and up till recently have never used syn oil. Only Casteroil and OEM recomended weight.

 

[CDW6212R]

Well if you can't tell sarcasm then I am not sure I can help you.

The filters on the car work very well. To be honest the 02 gets really no gain from them or any filter for that matter, as long as it filters good and does not come apart its good.

On my 94 though on back to back to back to back runs (after a warm up run and cool downs between each run) the K&N's gained ~5hp. In the real world I did back to back to back to back runs in the 1/4 and gained ~2mph. I never noticed a difference on a road course but I can never seem to get two close times with out changes LOL. There are a few SCCA drivers that run K&N and I know no one that had an motor fail due to contaminates that a fliter may pass.

I know, my sarcasm was over the top also. My point is/was the same as the last two posts. I want the best filtering possible, if I didn't know better then no harm. I have bought three K&N's over the years, I didn't know of the poor filtering until last year, I know better now.

For race cars which have oil changes a little more often than 25,000 miles(sarcasm), no difference will be seen. If actual testing was done of race cars and the oil by mandate had to be used for 25k or a year, someone would discover the difference in the oil quality between air filters.

I'm just trying to help, given the cost of fuel and oil and engine work, more life from a simple part is good information. In the end it saves money, that is the goal I hope. Regards,

 

[E.B. Cornburner]

We run a K&N on the race car. Only because it's cheaper in the long run than having to replace a paper filter every third race or so. It's a dirt track car, so the filters get loaded up quickly. We have a Outerwears brand pre-filter wrap on the element, so it keeps it cleaner a little longer, and also protects the element from flying rocks, chunks of mud, etc.

I do notice trace amounts of fine dust pass thru the element, but we change oil on that car about every 4th or 5th race, so it shouldn't make that much difference.

 

[tower]

I know, my sarcasm was over the top also. My point is/was the same as the last two posts. I want the best filtering possible, if I didn't know better then no harm. I have bought three K&N's over the years, I didn't know of the poor filtering until last year, I know better now.

For race cars which have oil changes a little more often than 25,000 miles(sarcasm), no difference will be seen. If actual testing was done of race cars and the oil by mandate had to be used for 25k or a year, someone would discover the difference in the oil quality between air filters.

I'm just trying to help, given the cost of fuel and oil and engine work, more life from a simple part is good information. In the end it saves money, that is the goal I hope. Regards,

No problem but you did claim them to be snake oil and they are not. Believe me I am the first one to laugh when I see people buy things like "the tornado" but K&Ns do work.

You may want "better" filtering and that's fine but that does not mean that better flow does not work.

As for the 25K on the oil I have driven my car to the track (MA to Texas) raced it all weekend and then drove it home, no oil change. I am not the only one to do this and again I know no one that had a motor fail do to contaminates that a air filter may pass.

 

[CDW6212R]

I think the more dirty oil would only show up in 50k-150k miles of use. That is rare for a person to put that on the same vehicle, and then take the engine apart. I'd say it's the difference between a 150k engine life, and 200k. It's an idealistic subject, not one that many people will see results on.

 

[mjp3262]

Umm ? Maybe y'all should be talkin about the OIL FILTERS instead of the air filters ! If the AIR FILTER is letting small particulate in, a good OIL FILTER will remove it. It's redundant in that aspect, so if you're using a good OIL FILTER with a less restrictive AIR FILTER, airflow and performance will increase without a problem because the GOOD OIL FILTER will pick up the slack. Just clean your MAF sensor when you clean your K&N. I use K&N and Motorcraft filters with Full synthetic oil. Used Mobil 1, but last oil change switched to Valvoline SYNpower Full Synthetic to see how it works.

 

[CDW6212R]

Any debris or contaminants in the oil is a very bad thing. To purposely allow more dirt into the oil is not very smart. Any "dirt" in the oil is destructive to the engine, no matter how good your oil filter may be or how often you change the oil. Feel free to abuse your engine, I will never use a K&N oiled filter again. You should live and learn, and not repeat mistakes. Regards,

 

[wapzappo]

I just put the premium Purolator on mine. It was $17.22.

Yessir!! Sounds good to me too.

 

[jakedrew]

<12$ Fram air filter. BUT IDEALLY, i want a k&n intake for my 4.6l explorer.

I am a fan of k&n filters.

http://www.knfilters.com/efficiency_testing.htm read up


here is something for you mass air flow sensor nut swingers:

http://www.knfilters.com/MAF/massair.htm


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[tnhusker]

I have never used the K&N filters. My concern has always been will I clean it properly and not over oil the filter causing a problem.

I would like to see some opinions on cold air intake. Do they actually justify the added cost and they are made by several companies so would one actually have enough benefit over another?