CAN IT BE TRUE? PANASONIC Panasonic MXE CQ-C9800U

[M.Scott]

its not 240 watts rms, its 60watts rms imo should read as 60 watts /4= 15watts per channel not 60 watts x4 which everyone seems to think = 60 per channel...

this head unit puts out ==\\\> 15 watts <///== per channel!

Nope, its 60 X4. Check crutchfield again and compare to other head units. Crutch just says RMS in the specs not how many channels. Ever since I bought my little class T amp I read up on this technology. Its close to 2 X more efficient with input power so thats why it can get 260 from a 15 amp fuse. Normal A/B amps suck big power only to turn it into heat. Of course not all 260 is clean but b etter than A/B technology. Don't believe me check out the tripath site. They talk about this Pani and 4 X 70 chip itself . New technology guys - I would by stock if I was a stock buying person. By the way Panasonic also has home receivers that are digital and 1/2 size and weight of normal recievers. Cause they are efficient and don't need the heatsincs to dissapate heat. Hell, people laugh at my 9X2X6" sized blaupunkt amp covered in plastic and think it can't possibly put out 317watts.

 

[leenjen]

New technology guys - I would by stock if I was a stock buying person.

dont jump on that too quickly. soon cars will have 48 volt charging systems instead of 14 volt. when that happens, headunits will put out a lot more power. you wont need a 4 channel amp. and speakers probably wont be 4 ohms anymore. there will be no need for 4 ga. wire either. but that's still a couple years away.

 

[IAmTodd]

dont jump on that too quickly. soon cars will have 48 volt charging systems instead of 14 volt. when that happens, headunits will put out a lot more power. you wont need a 4 channel amp. and speakers probably wont be 4 ohms anymore. there will be no need for 4 ga. wire either. but that's still a couple years away.

And why would you need a 48 Volt system? Seems to me 12 works just fine. I can't see this really happening anytime in the next 10 years unless this would be implemented into an electric car. Which I still don't see a purpose.

 

[Savage Wolf]

Nope, its 60 X4. Check crutchfield again and compare to other head units. Crutch just says RMS in the specs not how many channels. Ever since I bought my little class T amp I read up on this technology. Its close to 2 X more efficient with input power so thats why it can get 260 from a 15 amp fuse. Normal A/B amps suck big power only to turn it into heat. Of course not all 260 is clean but b etter than A/B technology. Don't believe me check out the tripath site. They talk about this Pani and 4 X 70 chip itself . .

Ok, read up on the Class T technology, neat stuff, guess i read the HU stats wrong, and the way its listed (on the main not the specs) is the same as most other wattage rateing (or I just plan read it wrong)
BTW I live in Columbia and work in Owings Mills, might have to check out your system sometime and see how it sounds, would be kind of cool having a amp that size... i might be able to fit it in my rig with my total lack of room...

 

[SirGCal]

And why would you need a 48 Volt system? Seems to me 12 works just fine. I can't see this really happening anytime in the next 10 years unless this would be implemented into an electric car. Which I still don't see a purpose.

Why do we NEED anything? We don't.. but the point is that with a 42V (Not 48V) system, alot of the more common 'necessities' of automobiles today become alot more reliable, cheaper to impliment, capable than on a 12V system. Think of head units that can put out 100W RMS of real power per channel very inexpensively. Even though the best amps use current as the focus, the voltage does and will always play a factor.

The other advantage of 42V systems are the cheaper wires required for the setup of the vehicle. Much of the big-guage stuff won't be needed anymore. Different batteries come into play and different combinations of every type of electronics setup change how the manufacturers will be able build the vehicles. It's just the next step in automotive technology and I see it starting within 3-5 years. Here's some literature on the 42V future: http://www.sae.org/42volt/products/. Personally, I'm looking forward to it and I think it's a long time overdue... (Think of the small packages new audio equipment will be available in! Muahahaha! With stealth as my main design factor, this will help alot.)

As for the Panasonic unit, I still haven't had one to put on a scope myself, but a few colleagues have mentioned that they seem to be getting varying results from unit to unit. None of them think it performs like a 60W unit, more like a 30-35W unit. And that's right about where most of them are scoping out the non-clipping signals. So it potentially has more power than the Mosfet-60 V-Drive Alpines out there (and yea it does require 10 AWG wiring kit just like the Alpine high-current versions (9813/15, 9833/35 (26W)) but so far we think the Alpines have a much better sound. I think the panny is designed as a voltage based amplifier (something JBL likes to do) instead of a current based amplifier. This allows for more potential power but the power isn't as effective as that made with current modifications instead.

But the panny is a nice option out there for those who don't want the Alpines but also don't want an external amp and do want a fair amount of power in their system. (Ok.. for the price... who wouldn't want the Alpines... But hey.. some people just don't like Alpine... I guess...) Either way, it's nice to have competition for a market segmet (high power head unit) reguardless of who it is...

 

[gatorpatric0]

.....but that sure is a nice Head Unit isnt it? I dont know about all this voltage BS. Im just glad we can all stay on topic.