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Changing tire size from 20 to 18 - challenges? Issues?

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Hello all. New here with a question about my 2012 Explorer Limited. It came standard with 20" tires, and while they have been adequate, they tend to not offer the smoothest ride. I have been contemplating downsizing the tires size from 20 to 18 as equipped on the base model Explorers but can't seem to find and definitive answers as to whether making such a change will have any adverse impact either on vehicle performance or the diagnostics/computer system of the vehicle. For instance, do I need to worry about clearances involving brakes or suspension; will the computer system (mileage values/speedometer accuracy) be adversely affected. Will the auto 4 wheel drive system be compromised in any way. Is it a common practice and is the difference in the quality of the ride worth the hassle of changing them over? Thank you for any input and advice.

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Welcome to the forum!

This member introduction forum is more about just introducing yourself while you will get more topic views by posting in the appropriate 5th gen forum. Perhaps a moderator can move the topic there.

The size change, that will make the ride smoother, at the expense of (mostly) cornering (and rapid lane changing, etc, turning) stability, and yet, cornering stability isn't great with high center of gravity vehicles anyway, plus the taller sidewalls on the 18" give you more protection against potholes. To clarify, these do not handle badly due to a switch from 20" to 18". We're talking that last 5% difference if you drive it like you stole it.


The key to keep the speedo correct is switch to the same (close enough) diameter tire. When the wheel size goes down, the aspect ratio goes up. The right size in 18" is probably 245/60R18, but if your vehicle is programmed for something else, a dealer or DIY Forscan app with an OBD2 dongle, can program in a new size. You can compare tire dimensions between different sizes here:


Plus the 18" tires are less expensive.


There is no clearance issue or computer/ABS/traction-control/etc issue if you stick to same width and diameter tires like the size I listed above, or it is within the programmable sizes the vehicle expects, and get the right rims, most easily just getting some 18" 5th gen rims, with the appropriate offset for an Explore of this generation. Even with the heavy duty brakes that have the larger diameter rotor and caliper spacing, that fits within 18" rims fine.


Some people even go with wider tires and a little larger diameter. That is a separate topic you can research if you want the pros and cons of doing that, but you mentioned no reason to do so, so there is no expected benefit - except, a higher sidewall ratio, will soften the ride a bit more, just as it does when it happens from moving from a 20" to an 18" wheel, and since it holds more air, you can run a little bit lower PSI too. I'm throwing the (possibly unpopular idea out there) that you could even go with a 245/65R18, maybe even an 245/70R18. You would need to research this and it might be more bother than it's worth. It would definitely be best to recalibrated/program the speedometer for these size increases. PeterK9 will come along and tell us whether that is within the 3% recommendation. ;)


As far as whether it is worth the hassle, I would wait until your current tires are due for replacement, unless you have a spine problem where every little bump in the road is painful. I can't answer the question of whether it's worth the money to buy new rims. I mean I'd look for good condition 18" alloys at a junkyard first, then you can sell your 20" rims to make up the difference. Would I buy brand new OEM 18" aluminum alloy rims from Ford (dealers) for an 11 year old Explorer? No, but that's just me. YMMV.


What tire PSI are you running right now? I don't want to advise running PSI too low for safety reasons, but if you are not hauling loads nor 1000lbs worth of people at a time, you can also drop the tire PSI some to have a bit softer ride, whether it be the current 20" tires or 18" replacements. Personally, my '14 has 18" wheels and I wouldn't drop below 30PSI in a low load state, and normally shoot for 35PSI, then air up closer to tire max rated PSI when I have a significant load.

Lastly, you did not mention your most demanding uses, nor what tires you presently have, but LT (light truck) rated tires tend to have stiffer sidewalls and ride harsher than P (passenger) rated tires, and touring tires tend to have less vibration than all terrain tires.
 






Thank you. I appreciate the response. Once I decide on type/brand and wheel style I’ll post pics of the change. The chrome aluminum wheels have oxidized so I’m looking at black instead….. the wife says no way to black. She likes shiny. I like a happy wife. So guess what wheels will be on it.
 






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I edited my prior reply a few times, lol. It's still not complete, too much to try to condense into one reply. A forum search will provide more info.
 






Thank you. I appreciate the response. Once I decide on type/brand and wheel style I’ll post pics of the change. The chrome aluminum wheels have oxidized so I’m looking at black instead….. the wife says no way to black. She likes shiny. I like a happy wife. So guess what wheels will be on it.
Welcome to the Forum. :wave:
FYI, I used to have a 2011 Limited with the 20" tires and for Winter wheels I went with the 17" steel Police Interceptor wheels and a 245/65R17 tire.
If you go with a 255/60R18 you would match the 20" you have now.

Peter
 






Welcome to the Forum. :wave:
FYI, I used to have a 2011 Limited with the 20" tires and for Winter wheels I went with the 17" steel Police Interceptor wheels and a 245/65R17 tire.
If you go with a 255/60R18 you would match the 20" you have now.

Peter
Thank you. The more I look into this and the more Ford service managers I talk to from various dealerships, the consensus from them is to leave it alone. From purely an aesthetic sense, they all agreed the Limited will look different. The wheel well will look odd. The road look (curb appeal, if you like) will seem slightly off and you won't figure out quite what it is as opposed to the 'wow' factor it has with the current configuration. When I was talking to the service manager at a pretty big dealership near Gillette Stadium, the owner of the dealership happened to be standing nearby when he heard me ask the question. He came over and said 'Couldn't help over hearing. Where are you parked?' He looked out the window and said, 'Take my advice. Don't do it. You'll regret it. Trust me. You might want to look at getting new rims, but don't downsize.'
 






Thank you. The more I look into this and the more Ford service managers I talk to from various dealerships, the consensus from them is to leave it alone. From purely an aesthetic sense, they all agreed the Limited will look different. The wheel well will look odd. The road look (curb appeal, if you like) will seem slightly off and you won't figure out quite what it is as opposed to the 'wow' factor it has with the current configuration. When I was talking to the service manager at a pretty big dealership near Gillette Stadium, the owner of the dealership happened to be standing nearby when he heard me ask the question. He came over and said 'Couldn't help over hearing. Where are you parked?' He looked out the window and said, 'Take my advice. Don't do it. You'll regret it. Trust me. You might want to look at getting new rims, but don't downsize.'
The size I posted is an exact match to what you have now as far as diameter goes. They will have the same diameter as your current 20" wheels. The diameter of both is 30" as the table I linked shows. I don't believe the people you spoke with realized that you will be changing the tire size to compensate for the smaller rim.

Peter
 






My '14 has always had 18" rims. As Peter indicated, the tire itself fills the wheel well about the same. My 245/60R18's look fine. Why did Ford choose the 245/60R18 as the factory 18" size instead of the 255/60R18 Peter suggested? I can only speculate it might be a better match for the 8.0" wide, 18" rims, instead of 8.5" width on the 20" rims.

I didn't want 20" rims and still don't. Potholes!!!!! My last tire replacement has aramid reinforced sidewalls too. I thought about road hazard protection but what they offered would only replace the one damaged tire, not all 4 to have them remain a matching diameter. That makes it about a wash, when all 4 18" plus new TPMS sensors came out to about $850 and often there are better discounts buying 4 new tires rather than 3.
 






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