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Does anybody make dual sub enclosures for 15's??

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I have been playing with the idea of 2 15's, just playing, and I looked in alot of places trying to find an enclosure for them. Largest size is 12". So would I be better off going with 3 or 4 12's or 2 15's?
 



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Umm... four 12` inch subs, man that's a little much, hell I have two 10` inch subs and that's enough to make me get tickets from cops 10 cars ahead! Just get one 15` inch, or two 12` inch subs, you will love it!!

Peter
ilikedellcomputers
 






No way go big or go home. There are places that sell boxes for 15's. But i would go with four 12"s cause they would be much louder. The only problem is that then you are going to have to give up cargo space. I think its worth it. I don't have hardly any cargo space any more. But im happy. Well i will be when i get another amp. Then i'll be pushin 150db's. Yeah!!!
 






I guess I am old-fashioned, I just like to be heard 2 blocks away, not 20! LOL, it's completely up to you Grant, what do you think your parents will say?

*BOOM**BOOM**BOOM**BOOM*

=-)

Peter
ilikedellcomputers
 






Check out http://www.sounddomain.com

They have quite a few boxes with dual 15" subs, medium, large sealed, and bandpass enclosures at very reasonable prices. Pretty reasonable, in fact, hovering around the $60-$100 mark. Go to "Shop" then "Sub Enclosures", and check the search for the "R/T" brand. Boxes are usually expensive to ship, so I'd suggest ensuring that you spend over the $99 limit to get free shipping. I'd try calling your order in to make sure you get the free shipping, because I didn't get that bonus, but I was still happy satisfied with my purchase.

Let us know what you end up choosing!
 






Well, I love my 2 twelve inch enclosed subs.

I dunno--I guess its up to you and your tastes. If you want more of a 'musical' sub I would say go with the 12 since they hit a higher range. If all you want is a base demo BOOM BOOM BOOM type system then get the 15's :-)

You could also consider some of the new square 15's I see out now. Now those are MEGA expensive.

The links posted above are good sources.
 






So, are 15's advisable or a waste of space? I want it to play loud and deep, really boomy, but I dont want it to totally destroy my music. I was thinkin two JL 15's, 400 watt a piece I think, so should I run about 1000 watts to the subs alone and then a separate smaller amp for everything else like speakers?
 






Okay lets do the math here. If the 2 15"s can handle 400 watts each and you want to run 1000 watts to the subs, you had better add another sub or you're asking for it. For blown speakers, distortion, loss of hearing, about a metric ton of Dynamat, and other really expensive upgrades. 2 15" subs is crazy in my opinion. They require tons of power and take up crazy space.

If you want to run 1000 watts to subs alone you better get a new high out-put alternator, an extra battery, and a cap. Plus, with a box the size of a small coffin for the two 15's where the hell are you gonna find room for a 1000 watt amp not to mention another amp for your components?

If you want boomy bass why not just get 2 12"s in a bandpass box? That's where you'll get the most boom. Also with a bandpass you won't have to run as much power to the subs.

Also do you realize how much this is all gonna cost?? 2 15" subs are gonna be expensive, unless you get some crappy Legacy subs. Plus the cost of an amp to run them is gonna be crazy too! I bet you would be more than satisfied with 1 or 2 high quality 12" subs.

I would definately rethink dual 15's. But if you think bigger is better and want really boomy bass why not go all out and get dual Clarion 32" subs. Sure they're bigger than the tires on your Explorer, but they'll be boomy and I'll probably be able to hear you here in Maryland when you turn it up to half volume but they only take 500 watts RMS so an amp to push them wouldn't be that expensive. Oh an forget any type of front stage with them too.
 






I didnt even know they made 32's :D
 






I can't even figure how a 32" sub would play nicely, even provided that a sub of that magnitude would only handle so little wattage! :)

Anyway, "destroying" the sound is going to be totally subjective. Some people feel that too much bass automatically ruins good sound, and whatever you're planning, it sounds like it will be more bass than any mids or highs will be able to compete with. If you want a lot of boom, definitely go for a ported or bandpass, and you'll get something that doesn't need a lot of power. TWO bandpass boxes, and you should effectively be blurring your vision. Don't be fooled into buying super high end subs and then throwing them into a bandpass box either. Firstly, putting too much power into a bandpass can blow the sub, and worse, you'll never hear the tell tale blown distortion to know it's screwed up. Secondly, a really nice sub is nice for a reason, it's tight, crisp, and clear, and plays a whole bunch of bass notes. A bandpass is exactly OPPOSITE of this. It's made to boom, boom loud, boom hard, and boom about three notes! It's going to rattle your car and announce your two blocks away when you're pumping your booty rap. It'll also do the same thing when you listen to a low voiced AM radio commercial speaker. So don't be fooled by those guys telling you to put a $250 sub in a bandpass box.

Although good subs can handle more power than they are rated for, it's not a good idea to plan a system in that way. General rule of thumb is to get an amp that will hit an RMS value of around 90% of the speaker RMS handling.

I'll tell you one thing, all that power is nice, but if you want more bass, it's always best to get more woofers than more power. When I started out, I had two tens and two 12s, all hooked up to no more than 160 watts RMS TOTAL. That's like 40 watts per sub, but it got really loud. I now only have two 12s running at least 700 watts RMS, and really I don't think it's as "bassy". It's a long discussion, but basically, it's that power versus the sound is "logarithmic" in function. That means it's really easy to get your 89.9 db from the first watt of power (the sensitivity rating) but the next few decibels up are going to cost you a lot more power, and even more decibels above that will require WAY more power. It's not what you'd expect - you won't double bass by doubling power, this is a common beginner misconception, which I made early on; that's why people who compete in bass competitions are paying in blood. They're stuffing in more woofers and a ton more power to get that extra 1 decibel to be world champion.

Even with just the bass I'm running now, it rattles my moonroof when it's screwed down tightly, and it makes the sound suck. There's no amount of Dynamat that will cure a rattling glass moonroof.

What you're considering is going to cost a lot of money unless you buy cheap stuff. I'd recommend toning it down first, maybe 150-200 watts per sub and some tens or 12s. Most of the woofers on the market only play between 125 - 250 RMS watts anyway. So I'd assume that means that companies are doing something right, and that woofers that handle more than that are usually overkill. Anyone who wants more bass than that is usually adding more subs rather than more power. That way if it's enough for you, then great, you saved money. If it's not, then hey you can save up more and add that second amp and 2 more subs later on. But at least for the time being, you had SOMETHING, and it's all nice, reliable, name brand equipment. It would suck to save up for so long, buy all this cheaper equipment, and not like it, or even more to save up A LOT for great equipment, and to find out that you overbought and won't even play it to its limits.

Start out small, but definitely start out with something that will grow if you want it to. Like buy two nice subs. Then if you want more bass, you can add two more nice ones. If you buy two cheap ones, and still want more bass, you'll probably end up buying two nicer ones and the cheap ones will be sitting in you room gathering dust. It'll save you lots of money.

Sorry for the long post...

Jon
 






Ok, we were in H.H. Gregg today buying another computer and I saw the little room that had all the subs and amps and stuff and I couldnt stop my legs from taking me over there. I saw two of those Kenwood tornado type subs in a box. They were 12's and that totally made my mind up. They were in the perfect sized box and looked great. I'm not gonna get the Kenwood subs, but a couple of JL 12W6's in there would look pretty nice. :D
 






Just remember about the funky impedence with the W6's. They are meant to be used in sets of 3 to get a 4 ohm load. And they are kinda expensive. $190 a piece at TMS electronics. By the way what is H.H. Gregg???
 






I have 2 12" JL W0's and they hit hard enough getting fed 100 watts per channel. I've noticed since getting my clarion head unit, which doesnt have as much control over the subs as i did with my eclipse deck, that the bass has become a little more tolerable...before my eclipse deck could juice the subs so much, that the bass would be overwhelming. Ands that with 2 12"s. Enough to rattle my cargo hatch pretty bad :-)
 






mrsteve,

H.H. Gregg is basically an electronics store. TV's, VCR's, computers, scanners, printers, audio stuff, that whole bit. At least thats all that was in this one :D
 






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