Explorer comes in last place in Motor Trends 7 passenger CUV comparison

[jbooo]

All the vehicles it went up against in the test have had several years to get things right.

all but the durango, and it finished 2nd, probably 1st if it had a better tranny

 

[ATLcanuck]

Thaywood, there are lies, damned lies and statistics. And those January sales figures you quoted certainly fit the bill. About as meaningless a set of sales figures as you can get.

See...even if you go just to February sales (as Ford Explorers started to roll more consistently off the lines, emerge from holds, etc.) the JGC sales were up 31 percent from 2010 (not bad) while Explorer sales were UP 268 PERCENT.

http://forums.trucktrend.com/70/863...auto-sales-figures-chrysler-and-gm/index.html

And...look! Here is March! What do you know, Explorer sales were up 111%, JGC up 64%.

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...designed-explorer-other-trucks-boom-/1?csp=34

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...-us-sales-increased-31-percent-119066519.html

It really is quite comical to come on a thread like this in mid April and cite January sales statistics to try to make some kind of point, when all evidence confirms that said point runs exactly counter to reality.

But have a nice day driving one of your real whell drive, right-way mounted engines.

 

[ATLcanuck]

while Explorer sales were up 268 PERCENT...

That's because no one wanted to buy a DEAD HORSE (2010 Ford Explorer).

Which makes the JGC's 31 percent from 2010 even more impressive.

Uh, Jaswood...you must have gone to the same math, statistics and logic classes as Thaywood.

From the same source that Thaywood used for his "stats" let's look at actual vehicle sales for the first part of 2010, and compare that to 2009.

January 2010
Explorer 4,247 units (Jan 2009, 3,687...15.2% increase)
JGC 3,311 units (Jan 2009, 3,124...6% increase)

February 2010
Explorer 4,038 units (Feb 2009, 3,073 units...31.4% increase)
JGC 6,614 units (Feb 2009, 4,725...40% increase)

March 2010
Explorer 5,907 units (Mar 2009, 3,317...78.1% increase)
JGC 5,986 units (Mar 2009, 4,538...32% increase)

April 2010
Explorer 5,295 units (Apr 2009, 3,723...42.2% increase)
JGC 3,393 units (Apr 2009, 3,600...6% decrease)

So there you go. Over the first four months of 2010, the Explorer sold 19,487 units and the JGC 19,304. In addition, for the Explorer, that represented a 41% increase over Jan-Apr 2009, while for JGC it was only a 21% increase.

To summarize, this time last year, the Explorer had slightly more calendar YTD sales and much better year-over-year sales momentum.

If the Explorer last year was a DEAD HORSE...what was the JGC? Technically, by a very slim margin, the JGC has had EASIER sales comparisons going back to 2010 than the Explorer. How, exactly, are the JGC's sales figures/growth for 2011 "more impressive"?

Any other stats you want to toss out to the group?

 

[chimoman]

Oooops. Damn facts getting in the way again. Some people will never learn. Oh well. LOL!!!!!!

 

[rmp301]

Which Three Row Crossover Would You Buy?
Chevy Traverse
11%(1232 votes).

Dodge Durango
17%(1897 votes).

Ford Explorer
49%(5384 votes).

Honda Pilot
7%(717 votes).

Mazda CX-9
8%(848 votes).

Toyota Highlander
8%(919 votes).

Total Votes: 10997


Interesting that their review and the poll that they took are so off when compared. I never read any in depth reviews on the Ford or it's competition. Just test drove it and made up my mind. Frankly, many of the issues that surround the Ex never even entered my mind when I test drove it. Even now I can only gripe about the MFT, but again it is fitted out like a plane and these issues tend to persist with any type of computer operated system. My desk top PC burps as does the Ex ............ Kinda comes with the territory I guess.

 

[hosedagain]

Another Review

http://magazine.windingroad.com/issue/66/

Click on the "blue arrow>" at the top right.
Next page click on "67 Ford Explorer"
if you want to read other articles "click on next article"

for those that own a Explorer the article-review will reassure your purchase and for those who are thinking of purchasing one (like Me) it could be helpful in your decision.

 

[2011EX]

Uh, Jaswood...you must have gone to the same math, statistics and logic classes as Thaywood.

From the same source that Thaywood used for his "stats" let's look at actual vehicle sales for the first part of 2010, and compare that to 2009.

January 2010
Explorer 4,247 units (Jan 2009, 3,687...15.2% increase)
JGC 3,311 units (Jan 2009, 3,124...6% increase)

February 2010
Explorer 4,038 units (Feb 2009, 3,073 units...31.4% increase)
JGC 6,614 units (Feb 2009, 4,725...40% increase)

March 2010
Explorer 5,907 units (Mar 2009, 3,317...78.1% increase)
JGC 5,986 units (Mar 2009, 4,538...32% increase)

April 2010
Explorer 5,295 units (Apr 2009, 3,723...42.2% increase)
JGC 3,393 units (Apr 2009, 3,600...6% decrease)

So there you go. Over the first four months of 2010, the Explorer sold 19,487 units and the JGC 19,304. In addition, for the Explorer, that represented a 41% increase over Jan-Apr 2009, while for JGC it was only a 21% increase.

To summarize, this time last year, the Explorer had slightly more calendar YTD sales and much better year-over-year sales momentum.

If the Explorer last year was a DEAD HORSE...what was the JGC? Technically, by a very slim margin, the JGC has had EASIER sales comparisons going back to 2010 than the Explorer. How, exactly, are the JGC's sales figures/growth for 2011 "more impressive"?

Any other stats you want to toss out to the group?

This is correct! Plus you can not compare the sales of the EX to the JGC because the explorer had dismal sales in 2010 because of the flex and edge. Plus the new jeep was out in early 2010 and the explorer not until Jan. 2011. So increase figures will never be comparable.