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My wife and I have been looking at replacing our trailblazer with something that has a 3rd row and has enough room to access that 3rd row with car seats. We also need true 4wd capability as we hit mountain trails as well. We hadn't considered the explorer as an option as years ago a coworker had one and he pointed out the manual said "this vehicle not recommended for off road use". I am assuming that is not the case and it is quite capable with a good set of tires. Any advice as we are looking for something 2006 or newer with a v8. Any potential issues I should look for on a used one?
 



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My wife and I have been looking at replacing our trailblazer with something that has a 3rd row and has enough room to access that 3rd row with car seats. We also need true 4wd capability as we hit mountain trails as well. We hadn't considered the explorer as an option as years ago a coworker had one and he pointed out the manual said "this vehicle not recommended for off road use". I am assuming that is not the case and it is quite capable with a good set of tires. Any advice as we are looking for something 2006 or newer with a v8. Any potential issues I should look for on a used one?

The third row is not easily accessible if you have car seats on both sides in the second row. And you can't put car seats in the third row. I have 2 car seats and if I need to put a visitor in the third row I find it's easier to have them climb in through the rear tailgate.

Ideally you could find one with the console in the middle of the second row and remove the console allowing passengers to climb in and walk back the 3rd row between the car seats, minivan style.

As far as potential issues, it would be nice if the plugs had been recently replaced but that's unlikely on one with under 100k miles. Just have a mechanic thoroughly check it out.
 






The third row is not easily accessible if you have car seats on both sides in the second row. And you can't put car seats in the third row. I have 2 car seats and if I need to put a visitor in the third row I find it's easier to have them climb in through the rear tailgate.

Ideally you could find one with the console in the middle of the second row and remove the console allowing passengers to climb in and walk back the 3rd row between the car seats, minivan style.

As far as potential issues, it would be nice if the plugs had been recently replaced but that's unlikely on one with under 100k miles. Just have a mechanic thoroughly check it out.
I don't understand the problem with having 2 infant seats. My son has his 2 year old in a car seat in the middle of the second row, and it works fine. He is about to become a father again and expects the second infant seat to be located on the second row 2/3 split bench behind the front passenger. The single seat (1/3) behind the driver is free to move for easy access to the very spacious 3rd row seats.

According to the Owner's manual for my son's 2007 Explorer EB V8 (7 seater with 3 rows) all 2nd and 3rd row seats (total of 5) can accommodate a child seat with tether.

Spark plugs are a two piece design with a very long section that accumulates carbon from combustion deposits. The torque required to separate the plug is 35 lbs ft and this can easily be exceeded by the friction of the carbon. The solution is a carbon dissolving fluid sold by Ford and a slow turning in and out of the plug until removed. Late 2008 models and later have a redesigned head that resolves the problem apparently.

The 6r60 is a very strong automatic transmission, but its initial programming for 2006/7 models can be less than smooth. A reflash with a later version of the software will usually fix it. The trans was updated to a 6r80 (increased torque loading to 400 ft lbs) in the 2009 and 2010 models, and very late build 2008 models.

The 6r60 does not have a conventional trans oil dipstick. So checking and replacing the fluid is not an easy DIY procedure. It uses Mercon SP fluid and the cost is the same as any other trans service.

The exhaust manifolds can warp and the studs break causing a slight noise and poor performance and fuel economy on 2006 through 2008 models. Due to access problems the repair can be expensive. I do not know if this was fixed on 2009/10 models.

The basic transfer case is AWD set at 40% front and 50% rear and there is no lockout. Higher end models have the torque on demand (TOD) transfer case (with AWD) and a lockout of the planetary gear differential. The TOD can be a one speed or two speed. The one speed uses the message center display to set and release the differential lock. The two speed transfer case has 3 buttons on the lower part of the center dash console, to select 4x4 Auto, 4x4 High Locked and 4x4 Low Locked. The "AWD TOD 2 speed transfer case" sounds like the one you need and is fitted to my son's 2007 EB V8 model. All 3 systems are sensitive to tire size, wear and inflation pressure, due to the AWD, roll stability and vehicle stability systems.

You may like the optional auxiliary rear climate control system. It is mounted in the back and controlled from the console over the rear view mirror. It allows heating and cooling of the 2nd and 3rd rows from auxiliary vents in roof and floor. The driver has control of temperature, fan speed and discharge from ceiling vents or floor vents.

You may like the power running boards on the 2006/7. They lower when door opens and raise when door closes (works with all 4 doors). The system allows easy entry (even for a 2 year old) but gets up out of the way when the door closes. Looks like a good feature for off road. It needs lubrication of the motor bearing, gears and joints on occasion.

The frame is completely boxed and very strong with numerous lateral strengthening members. The major components have good ground clearance and coupled with the independent suspension front and rear it should work well in off-road terrain. But it depends upon how severe the conditions are that you anticipate off road.

Good luck.
 






I have a 2006 Mountaineer AWD, and it's just fine on off road trails, I don't even need to lock it into 4X4. I just make sure that I don't aim for boulders, fallen trees or anything that might get at my paint (I'm not too adventurous).



For the seating, if you look at page 169 of the manual for my 2006 Mercury Mountaineer, you can see the possible seating positions for child seats. I have the 7 passenger, and get 5 car seats in there... :eek:

http://www.motorcraftservice.com/pubs/content/~WO6MNT/~MUS~LEN/41/06mntog1e.pdf
 






I cannot access laserbait's manual (not authorized), but a pdf version of the Ford or Mercury or Lincoln Owner's Manual is available for download here: Dead Link Removed and some maintenance info, etc.

If you download that manual (in my case a 2007 Ford Explorer) you will see the seating diagrams referenced by Laserbait on page 204.
 






While waiting for my phone to download the manual... I was looking at car seat positions middle and driver side, leaving the passenger side hopefully available to move for 3rd row access. That said, my oldest is in a booster seat and that is easy to move, but impossible to buckle when a car seat covers the buckle.

As for off road, we mainly do old mining roads and trails, but my trailblazer has had a wheel or 2 off the ground straddling ruts or rocks. I just don't want to think i have a vehicle I can go anywhere I am willing to take it not make it because the frame flexed and now I have large pile of scrap, or scrape something on a rock and leave all my fluid on the trail.
 






The typical 2nd row seating on an Explorer 7 passenger has a 60/40 bench seat. The "40" seat is essentially a single seat behind the driver that flip folds forward for easy access to the 3rd row. The "60" portion of the rear bench does not flip fold forward for access to the 3rd row.

In my opinion two child seats would be placed on the "60" bench seat to leave the single seat behind the driver for access to the 3rd row. But the options are there for different placings.

An open channel frame as used on a '74 Blazer is plenty strong enough for the kind of off road driving that is being contemplated. The Explorer's frame is very much stronger and the clearance is much better too. Where a vehicle needs to traverse short sharp rises where high centering is a problem and the trail has sharp rocks then shields are usually attached to prevent damage to transfer cases and anything low mounted. The approach and departure angles are also very significant. No manufacturers vehicle is inherently intended for such off road conditions. Jeep and Land Rover that do advertise off road capability also offer the equipment to safeguard their vehicles. Even if Ford does not offer appropriate equipment for the Explorer the aftermarket will have most of the needed items.

I would imagine that Ford's legal experts would have more to do with "this vehicle not intended for off road use" than Ford's engineering experts. Off road use includes a wide range of enjoyable trips to terribly scary vehicle disabling trips.
 






My opinion was predicated on " if you have car seats on both sides in the second row." If you're good with putting one car seat in the middle then I agree you can move the "40%" side forward to get to the 3rd row. We don't like the car seat in the middle because then you have to reach way over while standing in the open door way to buckle them in. But to each his/her own.

I guess I may be wrong about no car seats in the 3rd row. The one time I tried to move one back there I thought I found that there weren't any or at least enough tether points but maybe I missed it.
 






My opinion was predicated on " if you have car seats on both sides in the second row." If you're good with putting one car seat in the middle then I agree you can move the "40%" side forward to get to the 3rd row. We don't like the car seat in the middle because then you have to reach way over while standing in the open door way to buckle them in. But to each his/her own.

I guess I may be wrong about no car seats in the 3rd row. The one time I tried to move one back there I thought I found that there weren't any or at least enough tether points but maybe I missed it.

Ah, I see. I am used to putting my grandson in the middle of my back seat. I think he likes it there because he can see more toward the front between the front bucket seats, and not have to stare at seat backs. Other passengers then use the outside seats. The little one gets priority seating.

My son also has the child seat mounted in the center of the Explorer where his son gets a good view forward and a perfect view of the DVD system mounted from the roof.

The tether points (rings) behind the 3rd row seats are mounted through the plastic moulding where the tailgate closes.
 






Ah, I see. I am used to putting my grandson in the middle of my back seat. I think he likes it there because he can see more toward the front between the front bucket seats, and not have to stare at seat backs. Other passengers then use the outside seats. The little one gets priority seating.

My son also has the child seat mounted in the center of the Explorer where his son gets a good view forward and a perfect view of the DVD system mounted from the roof.

The tether points (rings) behind the 3rd row seats are mounted through the plastic moulding where the tailgate closes.

Well I have two kids back there so if I started that precedent they'd just fight over who got to be in the middle! :D

Yeah those tailgate rings popped into my head as I was writing my last response. Guess I had a brain freeze that day 2+ years ago when I tried to install the carseat back there and never thought about it since until today...
 






As far as going off road I think it will do just fine. Mine does pretty well with 2WD thanks to the traction control.
 






Well time for an update and give you all a heads up on what we ended up with.... while wandering the dealer lot the detailer happened to drive by in an Eddie Bauer V8 they had just taken in... so we now have a 2006 Eddie Bauer Explorer in our garage. Fairly loaded, though I am a little dissappointed in a few things. We can't seem to get the DVD player to go through the speakers, the salesman said this wasn't an option (the manual says otherwise) and I have the feeling something either isn't connected or was disconnected. Also, while test driving I realized I really don't like the door grab handle position. Way too low and too far forward.... in fact on the passenge side I whacked my head on the grab handle trying to close the door.

So far though, we are enjoying our new used purchased, and are fairly impressed with overall ride and comfort and still keeping SUV like handling.
 






Congrats on the purchase! I agree about the door handles, very weird placement, but they fixed that in later model years. One guy on here did modify his door panels with Civic door cups to make it easier to grab.
 






Nice,

get a pic or look online for the DVD, it might not be OEM. OEM is a big wide thing, almost the whole width of the truck. Almost more trouble than its worth.
On the '04 with OEM rear DVD, i had the option of playing the DVD through the speakers or it even had a Dual mode, Rears turned off, headset only. You could still listen to the radio and the rear could watch a movie.

door handles - agreed its mistake on the '06's. .still a great truck.
 






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