HELP, please!!! LF power window will not roll up, and it's raining a lot.

[TheFlyKneeGrow]

If it matters/helps to know - all of the power windows have been a bit sluggish sometimes, temperamental, etc.

This afternoon I rolled both front windows down, then when I went to roll them up the LF (driver's door) will not roll up (and it's raining a lot today).

I took off the door panel and there are no obvious problems. The little fuse (10A) that's on the backside of the power window switch array is fine.

And I've looked around and tugged and pushed but it seems like the motor itself is binding the gears and preventing a manual roll-up...

Is there some way to roll it up manually that I'm missing, and what else should I be looking for when trying to troubleshoot the problem?

I can still hear the motor click when I press the Down button so I think it's at least getting power and not totally dead - but that's just a guess.

Help, please. I need to be out and about and need this damn window up...

 

[muhl5443]

sounds like you need a new window regulator

 

[Robrt32]

Only way I could get mine up manually was to remove the motor... I done that and it came up easily.. I had to cut a 2x4 to wedge under it to keep it up until I could get it fixed and really if its the bushings, you just as well fix it while you have it out.. I didn't know about the bushings when I wedged mine up

 

[TheFlyKneeGrow]

a regulator eh? hmm, I don't know squat about those. where is it? expensive?

I guess I'll take the motor out and use a 2x4 or something like you've suggested, at least until I can get it really fixed.

I just found and read the bushing replacement thread (great thread) so I'll look into that too (though it'll be a few days before I can).

thanks for the suggestions/help.

 

[dansnyder22]

a regulator eh? hmm, I don't know squat about those. where is it? expensive?

I guess I'll take the motor out and use a 2x4 or something like you've suggested, at least until I can get it really fixed.

I just found and read the bushing replacement thread (great thread) so I'll look into that too (though it'll be a few days before I can).

thanks for the suggestions/help.

window regulator is a technical term for window motor. but if your bushings were bad you would still be able to manually roll it up. so its the motor for sure

 

[TheFlyKneeGrow]

ahh, regulator = motor. figures it was that obvious/easy.

so I removed the motor by drilling the third hole as described in the bushing replacement thread (again, great thread) and used a 2x4 to hold the window up for now.

with the motor removed but still connected to the power it will spin in both directions when I toggle the switch, and it doesn't make any strange noises or sound like it's stressing or dying. is it safe to assume it's just the bushings at this point, and perhaps it's those which are causing it to 'slip' and not have enough purchase to roll it up once the resistance of the window's weight and such are added?

and thanks again everyone.

 

[Spdrcer34]

REGULATOR DOES NOT MEAN MOTOR

The Regulator is the Scissor Assembly that does the the up and down motion.

The Motor is what powers the motion.

Regulator = Scissor Assembly
Motor = Electrical Motor attached to the Scissor Assembly

If the motor is FINE, it can't be the bushings. The bushings are IN the motor. Your Regulator is bad. Replace it.


Ryan

 

[TheFlyKneeGrow]

ok, so the motor is the motor and the regulator is the scissor assembly. got it.

but the scissor assembly looks fine, and doesn't bind or anything when I manually put the window up after removing the motor. is there some less than obvious problem with the regulator that I can't see, like it's somehow binding when the motor is attached? I mean, one of the X-arms is sort of rusty, but the horizontal tracks aren't bent or rusty or anything. what could be wrong with it?

 

[dansnyder22]

Sorry for the confusion that's what I had always been told. That the motor was the regulator and the scissor assembly was the scissor assembly

 

[fixxxer]

Spdrcer34 is correct, the window regulator is the scissor assembly, it regulates the window going up and down evenly, so the window doesn't **** or tip. The front edge and back edge of the window glass should raise and lower level with each other. My guess would be the bushings in the motor. With no tension, the motor may run fine but under load, the bad bushings come into play and if they are bad....

 

[Spdrcer34]

It's the regulator.

But while you in there, you might as well rebuild the motor too.

As the regulator is used, there is more and more stress put on the ends of the scissor assembly. It is spring loaded (the spring is strong enough to cut your fingers off, WATCH IT!), so it's not JUST the window and the motor at work here.

When my window went out, it would roll down 95% and be fine. But if I went the full 100% down, it would bind at the very bottom, and not want to come back up.

I finally replaced, with the motor at the same time.

I also cut my thumb off.

So be VERY careful when working on the windows.

Ryan

 

[dansnyder22]

you literally cut off your thumb? or just cut it up really bad?

 

[Spdrcer34]

I LITERALLY Cut it off...

I posted pics of the Xray

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190287

Xray scans on Pg 2

Ryan

 

[YBCold]

uh ur better off getting saran wrap and duck tape untill u can remove the power motor and regulator. be carefull when changing the motor though, the regulator thing is spring loaded. no fun if it snaps on you.