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Overheating! Please help!

00blkexplorer

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I've been having problems with my explorer for a while now. It gets all the way to the H on the gauge, suggesting overheating. But since it's getting hotter in California, i have to use my AC and now everytime i turn it on, it goes to the H rather quickly.



I've had a CEL before, with the code P0125. I don't have a thermostat on it, but i've changed the sensor that is connected to where the thermostat is (i'm not quite sure which one it is, it has two wires connected to it though).



I really need the help. I need to get to and from work. Thanks!
 



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Have you checked the coolant?
 






Install a new high-flow thermostat at the factory recommended heat rating (I think 195). That will actually help, not hinder cooling.

With no thermostat, the water actually passes through the engine too fast to absorb heat, it can also have an air pocket in the system that is hindering the ability to take away heat.

How is your water pump? They do fail and the truck will boil the radiator when they do. Mine did just recently. It failed because I had plugged the radiator fins with silt from an off-road run, and it actually sucked the bearings right out of the pump. A new pump isn't much money and it is FAR cheaper than replacing a cracked head from overheating.

Next, check out your transmission. Is it overheating? Remember, it cools itself by dumping heat into the radiator. That is fine, but if you are using it hard in a high-heat area, you will most likely need to install an auxillary cooler.

Then, check the engine with a good scanner (not a code-reader) to see what it is ACTUALLY doing temprature wise -- and also if there are any cylinders that are mis-firing, which is an indication of a head gasket or other leak in that area. A good shop will also have an exhaust sniffer that can be used on the anti-freeze to detect exhaust gas leaks through a bad head. Of course, the old test is to open the cap, run the engine and see if it is boiling out of the radiator from a blown head or head gasket.

I'd also check to make sure that you don't have soft hoses. They can actually collapse and suck in, especially if you are not running a thermostat.

Are you running the recommended 50/50 blend of anti-freeze/water? Plain water does not cool as well.

When is the last time you changed the air filter (or cleaned it if it is a a cleanable one)? Is your engine running rich or lean from a bad O2 or MAF sensor? Are the plugs and/or wires bad? Brake dragging? Transmission slipping? Oversized tires without proper gearing?

These are the most common reasons for overheating... Assuming that you have a decent radiator.
 






water pump....electric fans? not sure if the new ones have them....
 












Start with the simple stuff, the Tstat. It's part of normal maintenance and is easy and cheap to fix. You definitely should not run it without a Tstat. Make sure you get the O-ring gasket as well. It's not included with all Tstats.
 






I doubt adding a thermostat to a vehicle that is running "hot" is going to help at this but I do agree, ultimately you should get it replaced "eventually". I guess it could cause your vehicle to run rich as the computer "thinks" that your engine is still cold.... your gas mileage is probably down.

A couple things come to mind.
First the P0125 basically indicates that the OBD system "says" that your coolant temperature is too COLD which means you never achieve "closed system operation". This is most likely the result of "no thermostat".... so things "kind of figure". But why is this so? Well, the most likely cause is that your temperature GAUGE sender is broken but not your engine computer SENSOR. There are two different senders / sensors. The engine computer appears to be telling you that your truck is "COLD" while your instrument gauge is telling you it is "HOT".... may be your truck is going thru menopause...:-)

Anyways, when your guage indicates "HOT", does your truck start to run "funny"... eg. rough, hesitate, stall?

If you are have "run problems"... a sign of overheating, you probably need to determine whether you are getting water circulation.... if you have some sort of blockage in the rad or your pump is gone / non functional.

If you aren't having any "run symptoms", then your gauge sensor could be the culprit and can be replaced / tested... BUT don't guess.... cause an engine job will be in your future.... :-(
 






well the transmission is heating up. that was my other question, my OD light blinks when it the gauge states its overheating.

its practically a new motor. my head gasket went on the old engine so i just got a new engine.
 






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