Paragon Trail Ride in Dec.

[sk1er17]

yea
#1) Jasper reassured me that the recalls for the SOHC are taken care of on their engines
#2) they lied

they cant give me a hassle.. i paid $3000 5000 miles ago and the timing chain went- ill give them a whole lotta hell if they try to pull a fast one.

worst part is- ive been arguing with them for the past 2 weeks telling them it was going. they wanted me to spend an entire day to take off the tranny and check the flex-plate, because they said that was the problem. I said F'that.. ill drive it till either the engine blows for the flex plate goes.. when we'll know what the problem was.. i was right (one time i wish i was wrong)

 

[quiksilverdh]

damn that sucks about your engine man... sorry to hear that...


p.s. checked 3 wal marts for tow hooks today.. no luck... My last chance will be the truck store on my way home from work tomorrow.

 

[Robb]

Skier,
See if you can become friendly with a friend or mechanic that has ordered from Jasper a few times in the past. Jasper will often be very rude and unconcerned with normal individuals, but will often be very accomodating to customers they have dealt with in the past. I have witnessed their customer service with individuals at both ends of the spectrum, and Jasper acted in very opposite ways, depending on who they were dealing with.

 

[Skunk]

Jus so everyone knows, were gonna get nailed up here sat night through monday morning with a snow storm.... storm accumulations are not known yet but they will be out shortly.

We will be meeting sunday morning at my house or paragon about 9-9:30am.

 

[Doug]

Jus so everyone knows, were gonna get nailed up here sat night through monday morning with a snow storm.... storm accumulations are not known yet but they will be out shortly.

We will be meeting sunday morning at my house or paragon about 9-9:30am.

Awsome, we'll be there.

 

[98Sport]

Nice i wanted to try my tires out in the snow, cant wait, hey quick silver, i have an extra tow hook if u feel like puttin it on sunday morning, u can have it i only need one right now

 

[sk1er17]

Skier,
See if you can become friendly with a friend or mechanic that has ordered from Jasper a few times in the past. Jasper will often be very rude and unconcerned with normal individuals, but will often be very accomodating to customers they have dealt with in the past. I have witnessed their customer service with individuals at both ends of the spectrum, and Jasper acted in very opposite ways, depending on who they were dealing with.

yea i ordered the engine through my neighbor who has dealt with them in the past.. also they think he installed it and charged me.

Jus so everyone knows, were gonna get nailed up here sat night through monday morning with a snow storm
.

the last time i got to play with my truck in snow i had TT/Shackles and stock sized tires. ive been dying to play in some deep stuff with it lifted!

 

[Skunk]

to everyone that is coming out on this run on sunday:

We will be meeting at the gas station on 924 just off of rt 81 exit 143 between 9am and 9:30am. if you have trouble making it there by this time or if you have any further questions pertaining this please contact me at 570-401-6575..

to everyone that is attending sunday, I do not want lindsy there, she was not invited... and I do not want any trouble, confrontations, trouble or drama. I do not want any of this to take place at paragon or for that matter anywhere around here. If you bring her, you and your truck will not be permitted to join us in our group, you will have to pay the guide fee and find other trucks to join you if you still wish to enter the park. this is a very serious situation and I dont need the stress, I just want to go have a good time and wheel as everyone else does. If you still have the need for a guide or need the prices for guides here is the link to Paragon www.paragonap.com

Here is the current list of people attending this run:

Skunk: my loving wife Katherine (who is definity coming) and myself
Patch: Tara and Dave
Thumper: Mike and 2 friends
Flash: Doug and Justin
Cherokee: Matt and Alfred
Kamikaze: Ben ???
Quicksilver ???
Liquidseven ???

ride alongs:

Adam and GF

 

[Blee1099]

OK.... heres the deal.... alot of... no... too much bullshit is being started behind the scenes here, and I personally cant stand it, so heres my solution to it all.... you may all hate me from this weekend foward but it will definitly clear up all this.... this weekend I advise you all to show up, but heres the catch, show up only if you have nothing to hide, if your not lying about what you tell me or others, if your not starting this bullshit.... but if you are, I strongly advise you not show up... why? because I have saved IM's, emails, and other conversations that accuse one or the other, or more he said she said ****.... well all thats gonna come out this weekend, if your bullshitting me about something, guaranteed it WILL come out, if your lying to someone else or bullshitting someone else and I heard about it from you or someone else, it WILL come out.... so again, if you got something to hide, stay home, cause Im gonna stop this bullshit asap.

to the very few of you who arent involved in any of this, I appologize and your welcome to join us this weekend.

With that said, I'll definitely be there. I'm tired of hiding and hearing that "so and so said this" when they never did. I'm also tired of living in fear of a certain individual. It's keeping me from doing the one thing I wanna do most: 4wheel.

I think we all need to get this animosity between you/Kathy and Lindsy put to rest. Chris, you or Kathy may not want Lindsy there personally but rather than have this on going fiasco carry on for another year, I say we resolve it now. Sure some feelings will be hurt but its better to confront the issues now then have them linger on and have more rumors started. We all have a common hobby which is wheeling. I think having all of us there will help ease the transition from the hatred to some sort of harmony between sides.

 

[explornj]

I think we all need to get this animosity between you/Kathy and Lindsy put to rest. Chris, you or Kathy may not want Lindsy there personally but rather than have this on going fiasco carry on for another year, I say we resolve it now. Sure some feelings will be hurt but its better to confront the issues now then have them linger on and have more rumors started. We all have a common hobby which is wheeling. I think having all of us there will help ease the transition from the hatred to some sort of harmony between sides.

i agree with ben on this, by saying one person is not invited it just makes it so that more rumors and **** will continue to happen if this is the case count me out and away from any runs dealing with a group, cause i personaly don't need to deal with any of this and have no desire to do any more so i say this all gets cleared up now or i feel there is no hope for any of us as a group, and it also seems like we all say we should act like adults but from what i see everyone is acting like little baby's about this. and if any one has any issue with what i have said tell me to my face don't talk to everone else and start more issues

 

[Skunk]

as I said, bring her and find a guide... simple as that, I dont think any of us need to deal with the **** that lindsy and only lindsy is starting, even if we do resolve this, she is still not welcome, so either way she, and whoever brings her will be wasting their time and money. She herself said that if I didnt want her to go she wouldnt, so this shouldnt be a problem. I have nothing against anyone else and feel free to come, if you want more info or proof of what was said and the reasoning behind what I say just let me know and Ill be glad to post it.

 

[quiksilverdh]

ahhhhhhhhhhh
with all the snow forecasted for sunday Im being called in for over time (I work at a ski resort) As of today (found the tow hooks) I am unable to get out of work for sunday and will not be able to join you guys. I will be there in spirit even though none of you know me!

I hope to be able to join you guys on the next run you do, so please keep me posted and I will be sure to keep my eyes on the Extreme Explorers area of the forum! Thanks again for all the assistance as well. Everyone have fun!

 

[98Sport]

I am gonna have to agree with ben and justin, this **** has to freaking stop and like justin if this keeps goin on u can keep ur f-ing club cause i can find better people to hang out with and go wheelin, this is rediculous that some people can act like little friggin kids, just face the f-ing music and get it the hell over with, we are all grown ups here, lets start acting like them, so u can count me out for this run and for the next few, raush creek is soundin pretty good from now on

 

[Skunk]

fine... ya'll wanna read this ****? here it is.... you tell me know whos starting **** with who.... the first line should tell it all... but read it through... and every line... draw yourown conclusions on who you call a "friend" and who keeps this bullshit going, this is what I have to deal with, if you think lindsy is correct in throwing the blame around and accusing people of **** then you got issues just as f-ed up as hers. I refuse to let someone that is strait out lying about my friends and me get away with it or let it just rest, if ya got a problem with that talk to me about it, dont go to anyone else cause Ill just hear about it through their own rendition.

Bullshit IM

Im tired of the **** more then anyone, for this reason my club that noone wants to be part of is going exclusivly members only.

I would like to add, to anyone that is not involved in this ****, I am sorry you even have to read any of this at all, you are more then welcome to join us this weekend and/or contact me about further runs.

 

[explornj]

just to keep things clear my issues here are not who said what or who did what it's the fact that we as a group can't seem to get over our own little ego issues here any by posting on the web a conversation that you had with someone is in my mind verry childish. this is exactly what i don't want to deal with, if you have problmes with some deal with them directly don't keep talking to everyone about them and putting them on the web and making problems for everyone just deal with it people god i don't get it some times, just shut the f-up some times about it and just get back to what we all love just haning out and having a good time. but it don't seem like that can happen here ever again, so count me out. i am going to take the day and just veg so i can deal with the crazy ness at work for the next week. and i am sorry for the new people that have wanted to join up with this group to have to read all of this but i guess you can get an idea of what to expect when you do meet up with us

 

[Skunk]

well I tried to just say that I didnt want her around and felt uncomfortable about it but that wasnt good enough, well look at who is spreading bullshit around about everyone.... even people around her where she lives that have nothing to do with this board complain about the same thing with her.... well if I have to part ways with 10 friends that Ive know for years just to get rid of one problem so be it.... hate to do it but maybe then the bullshit will end.

and Justin, you say we cant get over ****.... well who the #### is IMing me? who keeps IMing me till I answer.... who starts an IM with a threat? you cant be that gullable can you? but I believe you too will see the light.... maybe take longer but you will see what the truth is.

 

[LiQuiD7EpHeN]

My girlfriend, Sarah and me are in We'll be at the gas station around 8:30-8:45. I'm really excited to meet everyone.
The one thing that kinda bothers me though is this problem that a few members have with each other. This is a Ford Explorer club and form we shouldn't bring our personal problems out here it just doesn't look good to have anamosity in a form we all come together in to have fun and ask questions about the one thing that brings us here, our Explorers. If people have problems with each other E-mail them or IM them or hell call them but this is the last place personal problems should be found.
With that said, my girlfriend and I can't wait to meet all of you and I hope to have alot of fun. Oh I'll be the green and silver sport with the tire and yellow straps on the roof at the gas station.

 

[LiQuiD7EpHeN]

Hey Chris (Lizardtrac?) do you have any more of those explorer stickers? and if you do could i get 2 off you?

 

[Skunk]

Hey Chris (Lizardtrac?) do you have any more of those explorer stickers? and if you do could i get 2 off you?

let me know what you want and I can make em either tonight or tomorrow after paragon.

 

[jasonb]

sometimes i too pretend that i am back in junior high.