Push button start can be turned off while driving!,,

[nvargase]

Welcome to the Forum.:wavey:
Despite the number of posts in this thread, you are actually only the 2nd person to have posted that this has happened. I can only guess it is due to the unfamiliarity with a new vehicle. As mentioned several times, the engine can be easily restarted should it happen again.

Peter

Appreciate your feedback. All I´m saying is that, as some have suggested, if you had to press and hold this would not happen and could be a very simple solution to avoid accidetal turn offs. But as it is right now a light touch turns the engine off.

 

[Lewisra]

If you own an explorer with the keyless feature I invite you to try it and then get back to me with your experience. Thanks.

I have 2 vehicles, including an Explorer, with push button start. We've had the Explorer for 2 1/2 years and it's never happened to me, my wife or any of my 8 kids that have driven it.

Things that make you go hmmmmm

 

[nvargase]

I have 2 vehicles, including an Explorer, with push button start. We've had the Explorer for 2 1/2 years and it's never happened to me, my wife or any of my 8 kids that have driven it.

Things that make you go hmmmmm

Glad to hear that, let´s hope it never does, yet I would still encourage you to try it and see how easy it is and decide what you would do at 65mph if it accidentaly happens.

 

[Lewisra]

Glad to hear that, let´s hope it never does, yet I would still encourage you to try it and see how easy it is and decide what you would do at 65mph if it accidentaly happens.

No thanks.

 

[peterk9]

If you own an explorer with the keyless feature I invite you to try it and then get back to me with your experience. Thanks.

See posts 28 and 51. I've tried it myself and the situation is easily corrected. As some others have stated here, you should be able to turn the engine off at any time, moving or not.

Peter

 

[nvargase]

See posts 28 and 51. I've tried it myself and the situation is easily corrected. As some others have stated here, you should be able to turn the engine off at any time, moving or not.

Peter

Ok, appreciate. However note you said that you found out that in order to switch the engine off while driving, you have to hold the Start/Stop button a little longer than normal. This wasn´t the case when it happened to us, it wasn´t a tap but the button wasn´t held either. I guess the concern here is if it happens to an inexperienced and unexpected driver at high speeds how they would react to a loss of steering assistance and power brakes. Other posts have stated that it doesn´t work at high speeds. I have not tried it yet thruthfully to comment.

 

[blwnsmoke]

It happened to me as well. Just a normal light touch will turning it off. It happened to my wife as well. Is very easy to happen. With a key is not as easy. I´ve been driving for over 25 years and I can assure you I never had an accidental turn off with a key. I just purchased the 2016 xlt a month ago and already between my wife and myself its happened 3 times. I think its too easy and therefore a safety hazard.

Your total should read "Ford explorer xlt 2016 keyless ignition shuts off accidentally by driver"

Sorry but to reach your hand around the steering wheel and hit the button that says "start/stop" with nothing else near it is pure driver error and not a safety issue. All I can say is pay more attention to what you are touching.

 

[blwnsmoke]

Appreciate your feedback. All I´m saying is that, as some have suggested, if you had to press and hold this would not happen and could be a very simple solution to avoid accidetal turn offs. But as it is right now a light touch turns the engine off.

The problem you have with this is that you will then have an argument on the other side saying, "I didn't hold the button long enough and I walked away not knowing the car was still running". Or it will be, "I need to shut it off in an emergency situation and had to hold the button, wth.."

Then you could say, "program it so it takes 2 seconds to shut down when not in park but shut down immediately when in park" etc etc. You can come up with so many variations but the reality is it is driver error and nothing wrong with the vehicle.

The fact that there are well over 1 million of these Explorers and you are only the 2nd person to complain on this forum goes to show how small of an issue it is.

5 years and 93,000 miles and never accidentally shut it off.

 

[nvargase]

The problem you have with this is that you will then have an argument on the other side saying, "I didn't hold the button long enough and I walked away not knowing the car was still running". Or it will be, "I need to shut it off in an emergency situation and had to hold the button, wth.."

Then you could say, "program it so it takes 2 seconds to shut down when not in park but shut down immediately when in park" etc etc. You can come up with so many variations but the reality is it is driver error and nothing wrong with the vehicle.

The fact that there are well over 1 million of these Explorers and you are only the 2nd person to complain on this forum goes to show how small of an issue it is.

5 years and 93,000 miles and never accidentally shut it off.

Note that all it takes is one life lost to this so people start paying attention. Don´t get me wrong I really like the car, I had 2010 XLT model until recently and I never had a complaint other than usual ware.

On the other hand leaving the engine running is a very serious oversight from a careless driver, this has no relation to the point at hand; however, poking around for intruments while you´re driving and accidentaly pressing the shut off button is a very likely scenario. Now you said something about programing. Can you set it up so that the shut off is delayed by a few seconds? Is it an available feature? That would certainly solve the issue.

 

[sheltonfilms]

 

[Nasty]

lmao omg. The OP was pretty amazing, wonder why she never came back...

 

[peterk9]

Ok, appreciate. However note you said that you found out that in order to switch the engine off while driving, you have to hold the Start/Stop button a little longer than normal. This wasn´t the case when it happened to us, it wasn´t a tap but the button wasn´t held either. I guess the concern here is if it happens to an inexperienced and unexpected driver at high speeds how they would react to a loss of steering assistance and power brakes. Other posts have stated that it doesn´t work at high speeds. I have not tried it yet thruthfully to comment.

It could be that some ignition buttons are more sensitive than others. Not sure on that. I would guess that you could shut the engine off at any speed. At least I'd hope so if there was ever a need for it. As I mentioned, I was able to do it at 50 MPH. I agree it could take one by surprise and could create a bit of panic. From what I've read, these vehicles are not easy to maneuver without power assisted steering. That is why I chose a straight unoccupied stretch of road for my 'test'.

Peter

 

[MattHelm21]

Hi folks,

I know this is an old thread but I had such an amazing time reading it that I had to chime in. To be fair, I should say I come down on the side that this is totally driver error.

Now, I had to try this myself so this morning in the parking lot at work at about 20 mph, I tried to shut the engine off by pushing the button, making momentary contact, and releasing it. It did not shut off. I tried two more times and was unable to get the engine to stop. Finally, I held the button in and after three seconds, there was a chime and the engine turned off. I very simply shifted to neutral and lightly touched the brake, pushed the button and the engine immediately restarted. The only extra step which differs from a vehicle with a traditional key is having to touch the brake pedal.

There's my 2 cents.

 

[nvargase]

Hi folks,

I know this is an old thread but I had such an amazing time reading it that I had to chime in. To be fair, I should say I come down on the side that this is totally driver error.

Now, I had to try this myself so this morning in the parking lot at work at about 20 mph, I tried to shut the engine off by pushing the button, making momentary contact, and releasing it. It did not shut off. I tried two more times and was unable to get the engine to stop. Finally, I held the button in and after three seconds, there was a chime and the engine turned off. I very simply shifted to neutral and lightly touched the brake, pushed the button and the engine immediately restarted. The only extra step which differs from a vehicle with a traditional key is having to touch the brake pedal.

There's my 2 cents.

I agree is driver error, it´s an obvious mistake. Nobody wants it to happen (unless you´re testing it). My point is that in my case the button is too sensitive, could be there´s a setting for it. I have to check the manual to confirm, but certainly wasn´t 3 seconds. In my case it was instantaneous.

 

[peterk9]

I agree is driver error, it´s an obvious mistake. Nobody wants it to happen (unless you´re testing it). My point is that in my case the button is too sensitive, could be there´s a setting for it. I have to check the manual to confirm, but certainly wasn´t 3 seconds. In my case it was instantaneous.

There's no setting for it. Mention it to the dealer. I'm curious as to what you meant to do when you pressed the button in the first place? There aren't any other controls in that area.

Peter

 

[RedDen]

I don't get why it is so huge for everyone? Your push button is a key for your car. You can shut off car's engine while driving using the physical key, right? So, you can do with push button. I guess it is not only on Ford vehicles but on any manufacturer's vehicles.
Moreover, to shut off engine while driving one not only has to push the start button but to HOLD it for a few seconds! So, it can NOT be accidental.
I don't remember any other buttons I have to hold in my Explorer in order to make an action, just one press is enough.

 

[peterk9]

I don't get why it is so huge for everyone? Your push button is a key for your car. You can shut off car's engine while driving using the physical key, right? So, you can do with push button. I guess it is not only on Ford vehicles but on any manufacturer's vehicles.
Moreover, to shut off engine while driving one not only has to push the start button but to HOLD it for a few seconds! So, it can NOT be accidental.
I don't remember any other buttons I have to hold in my Explorer in order to make an action, just one press is enough.

In the OP's case, just touching the button turns the engine off. He doesn't have to hold it and that is his concern.

Peter

 

[Lewisra]

Good thing the doors automatically lock, I'd hate to fall out if I accidentally opened the door when trying to put my window down.

 

[CC Rider]

I think this falls under 2 headings. Distracted driving and driver error. I don't think the car manufacturer is to blame.

I agree, actually there could be an emergency, collision, or accident where being able to turn off the ignition is a good thing. Distracted driving, cell phones, etc, are a big reason why accidents happen. Focus on your driving, save a life!

 

[sheltonfilms]

Good thing the doors automatically lock, I'd hate to fall out if I accidentally opened the door when trying to put my window down.

Spot-on analogy.