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Replace engine or say goodbye and part out, what would you do?

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2006 Explorer XLT v8 trac
Our meticulously maintained 06 explorer v8 needs a new engine :( ... cylinder #6, broken rocker and blown valve!
Driving to the grocery store, on an ordinary day, the check engine light starts flashing and next thing I know we are out of commission.
What would you recommend, replacing the engine or parting it out?
 



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all depends on miles, and how sentimental you are about your truck.

The problem is that a long block and labor is probably going to run 5 or 6 grand, and that's a down payment on a substantially newer truck. If your attached to this rig, fix it and road on!
 






all depends on miles, and how sentimental you are about your truck.

The problem is that a long block and labor is probably going to run 5 or 6 grand, and that's a down payment on a substantially newer truck. If your attached to this rig, fix it and road on!
Yeah, I was told to expect to pay about that, thanks for the quick reply and honest!
I'm in the process of figuring out how attached I am to it and as of right now it's looking like more so than not, but I am also trying to keep an open mind as I look around at other options, as you said 5-6K can be used in many ways!
I'll keep you updated.
 






Did valve smack the piston?

If its an intake valve, I have heard that you can remove the follower and just run it on 2 valves.
 






Our meticulously maintained 06 explorer v8 needs a new engine :( ... cylinder #6, broken rocker and blown valve!
Driving to the grocery store, on an ordinary day, the check engine light starts flashing and next thing I know we are out of commission.
What would you recommend, replacing the engine or parting it out?
I would need more details about the vehicle before giving an opinion. Things like mileage, major repairs done, interior/exterior condition, is it a rusting hulk etc. Overall, I don't think it makes much sense to dump serious money into a 14 year old SUV.
 






I would need more details about the vehicle before giving an opinion. Things like mileage, major repairs done, interior/exterior condition, is it a rusting hulk etc. Overall, I don't think it makes much sense to dump serious money into a 14 year old SUV.
it was garaged for 89k miles we obtained it in 2018 and its been dealer maintained since new all records everything works No rust holes anywhere. It does have a slight headliner issue but only up against the windshield and it has not spread. The radio lights also do not work but other than that, it ran strong and smooth. it had all plugs changed and all coils done at 120k. trans is smooth. No dings or dents but the one clip on bumper needs replaced as well, it sags about 1/2" but thats it. we believed the motor would last us 200k minimum the oil is always clear even when we change it.
 






it was garaged for 89k miles we obtained it in 2018 and its been dealer maintained since new all records everything works No rust holes anywhere. It does have a slight headliner issue but only up against the windshield and it has not spread. The radio lights also do not work but other than that, it ran strong and smooth. it had all plugs changed and all coils done at 120k. trans is smooth. No dings or dents but the one clip on bumper needs replaced as well, it sags about 1/2" but thats it. we believed the motor would last us 200k minimum the oil is always clear even when we change it.
we also do not have the option of buying new so spending 5k on another used vehicle and not knowing if this would happen again is a bit of a risk as well. we have a 5k budget and really thats it.
 






If it were mine in that condition, I'd just fix the engine, assuming there's no piston damage. I'd do the chains and phasers as well, since it has 200K..


My own engine is almost at 200K, but other than the typical exhaust leak, no issues.

Good luck, let us know
 






I'd replace the engine. Engines under 100k miles used can be had for under $1k. I know it is a coin toss, there have been times that used parts from a junk yard have lasted me longer than new.
 






If the truck is in good condition, I'd keep it.
I replaced my engine 5 years ago with a used one.
I am not sure how much the prices changed since then, but I found a used motor with just 55k for 1800. I was quoted 2000-2500 in labor.
I ended up replacing the motor with a friend, but overall shops wanted 4000-4500 to drop a used engine. About 7k for a crate motor.
I also heard that you can run on 1 intake valve but you may get misfires on that cylinder. I also wonder what was the extend of the damage, just the head or the piston is messed up.
I also heard that any 4.6 3 valve motor should work, not just 06-08. At the end, they were also installed in F-150's up to 2010 so I would look there too for a replacement.
 






Like others said, replace the engine if the rest of the vehicle is in good condition. Their are re-built engines with good warranties advertised in alot of places on the net. That's what I plan on doing with my Mounty
 






it was garaged for 89k miles we obtained it in 2018 and its been dealer maintained since new all records everything works No rust holes anywhere. It does have a slight headliner issue but only up against the windshield and it has not spread. The radio lights also do not work but other than that, it ran strong and smooth. it had all plugs changed and all coils done at 120k. trans is smooth. No dings or dents but the one clip on bumper needs replaced as well, it sags about 1/2" but thats it. we believed the motor would last us 200k minimum the oil is always clear even when we change it.
I am still not sure how many miles are on it now. I will assume around 120k miles since you have only owned it for 2-3 years and bought it with less than 100k miles. I think you are in a position where you should consider looking at repairs like wheel bearings, radiator, accessories (water pump, AC compressor, alternator etc.) and any other parts that can typically need replaced by 150k miles. Has the transmission, differentials, transfer case, brake, coolant, power steering fluids been replaced? At 120k these fluids all should be replaced if you want to get a reliable 200k miles out of the vehicle. Especially the transmission and transfer case. The transmission is way overdue for a pan drop, filter change and refill if it hasn't been done. Don't believe Ford's recommended service intervals for fluids. They only insure they get repair work after the warranty expires. The things I just mentioned all cost money and it is likely you will need to address them at some point.

If I were in your shoes (and I was last fall with my old 2002 XLT) I would add up the cost of the engine, the fluid maintenance items you might need to have done, replacing the radiator (they are notorious for leaking (I had to replace mine last fall), a couple of wheel bearings (you are at the point they start to fail) and then throw another $1k in the sum to cover a few of the other items that typically go wrong that I never mentioned. Keep in mind that I never even brought up a transmission repair or replacement but the 6R60 is fairly reliable if the pan is dropped and fluid refilled every 40k miles. Add in your engine replacement and you are looking at the cost of driving this for another 100k miles. The good thing is the engine should go to 300k+ miles if you install a remanufactured one.

Last fall I did what I mention above regarding my 2002 XLT with 116k miles. I expected the engine to last to 200k and beyond because the 4.6L 2V engines are darn near bullet proof. I knew a transmission replacement was coming soon because the 5R55 is almost guaranteed to die before 150k miles. It needed some other repairs like front wheel bearings, headlights/tail lights (they let in water) and a few other things. After adding up the anticipated costs I decided getting a newer model was the better choice. I ended up buying the 2010 Mountaineer I have now for around $6,500. It has every option available for this year, had a little over 100k miles on it, was completely rust free and in pristine condition with all things working. It had a decent maintenance history, the Carfax said it spent no time in the rust belt and even the retractable running boards worked. I replaced the radiator (and water pump as a preventative measure), installed new tires and replaced all the drive line fluids. All in I spent $8,500 ($6,500 + $2,000) and have what I believe is a fairly reliable SUV. I know there will be other repair bills to come but hopefully they will be minor and spread out over many miles and several years.

So I advise you to see what your $5k repair budget along with some of the other maintenance/repair costs would give you to apply to purchasing a newer vehicle. You might find it is better to cut bait on this one and replace it with something newer and with less miles. Or you might find keeping this one is the better choice.
 






I agree with the others that say take some time and see what a replacement or even reman engine costs. F150's had the 4.6 3v starting 2009 and at least 2010. They can be found in the boneyards.

And as 94Eddie says, be prepared for other repairs down the road, so budget some $ for other repairs over the next couple of years
 






This is never an easy decision. Other factors are: how much work can you do yourself ? If you need to get it to the shop with every repair, it can get costly. But the pro to keep it is that you know it and the history of it. There is no guarantees that a "used" replacement will not require some major repairs.
My 4.6 v8 has over 300k and I still have the original accessories (alternator, PS pump, AC compressor), the tranny still shifts like new but I have replaced the fluid probably close to 10 times - it paid off obviously. When I pulled the motor at 200, it was still a good motor.

The only reason I don'd drive it is because my daughter "inherited" from me :) and I have had aches for an F-150 so I used that as an excuse LOL
But it will stay in the family for a lot longer. The headliner is not in the best shape, the rear rockers start rusting but i'll keep patching it up.
 






Our meticulously maintained 06 explorer v8 needs a new engine :( ... cylinder #6, broken rocker and blown valve!
Driving to the grocery store, on an ordinary day, the check engine light starts flashing and next thing I know we are out of commission.
What would you recommend, replacing the engine or parting it out?
Years ago I had a reliable shop recommend that if my engine failed on my 95 Limited, that I should consider replacing it with a Jasper engine. It is a complete running engine. Never had to, just 137,000 miles on my excellent, well maintained Explorer. Use it almost daily , but no longer for long trips.
 






Years ago I had a reliable shop recommend that if my engine failed on my 95 Limited, that I should consider replacing it with a Jasper engine. It is a complete running engine. Never had to, just 137,000 miles on my excellent, well maintained Explorer. Use it almost daily , but no longer for long trips.
 






I was faced with this decision on a 2006 XLT with 131k, when the trans went out. In Alaska quote for a new transmission was $3800 - $4200. Vehicle had no rust, nice leather interior and everything worked. Parted it out, which is a PIA, took about a month and received $1000 total after dealing with 6/7 different people during this covid 19 issue. With your engine out and the problems with the transmissions on these vehicles sell it.
 






The v8 transmission in the 4th gen is way better than any previous one. They have their quirks but are very strong and last if fluid is changed regularly.

Before I'd consider buying another vehicle or replacing I need to know if the valve is still in the guide or has it dropped and munched up the cylinder. It could be as simple as a broken valve spring or ducked up camshaft / rocker. Stuff like that can be repaired in the truck WITHOUT removing the timing cover if chain guides are good.

I could do a cam swap in a Target parking lot in less than 2 hours I've done so many of these. Broken valve spring I'd need shop air to fix but easily doable. Some shops don't want to do repairs like these as they can't "warranty" them afterwards like a new engine job......
 






Years ago I had a reliable shop recommend that if my engine failed on my 95 Limited, that I should consider replacing it with a Jasper engine. It is a complete running engine. Never had to, just 137,000 miles on my excellent, well maintained Explorer. Use it almost daily , but no longer for long trips.
The only thing that can break on your 95 is a small crack in the head. It is not hard to replace heads on these these engines. And mine was fixed with K-seal for many years. The 4.6 is a whole other can of worms.
 



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