ST Tuning by Unleashed Tuning - Highly Recommend!!

[ljn21]

Hi Everyone
I was interested in tuning my ST and did some reading on other Ford forums. Considered Livernois, 5Star, Palm Beach Dyno and contacted some others that offer tunes for my Raptor like ORA, MPT. JDM, Cobb, etc but most of those don't offer tunes for the 2020 ST yet. I ultimately chose Unleashed Tuning/Torrie. He tunes via HP Tuners. Purchase process was painless after my initial email to him. He answered a few questions via email back and forth within minutes, on a Sunday evening.

Paid $599 for the HPT MPVI2 module and necessary HPT credits. I pulled a copy of my stock tune file and emailed it to Torrie. In less than an hour I had a tune file back. I had spent some time emailing with Torrie before purchase letting him know my goals with tuning (better driveability, less lag, better mpg, power down low, larger/flatter torque curve, etc. vs just a higher peak HP). Once I loaded the first tune from him, it was immediately noticable it had more power, transmission behavior was better. He had me send him back a log of the tune using the HPT VCM Scanner program which I did and within an hour, had a revision based on the log that was even better. Rinse and repeat a few times with more revisions and he kept finding ways to refine how it felt. I havent had a chance to get to a dyno yet or try any DIY 0-60 runs but by the butt dyno feeling, its much quicker. Transmission behavior is spot on, and my city mpgs are up about 2-3, highway mpgs are up about 3-4. Working with him on some revisions over the weekend to see if more power can be tuned safely so will have a few more revisions to try out and will update the thread periodically.

I am not affiliated with Torrie or Unleashed Tuning except as a paying customer and receive nothing for the review, nor was I asked to post anything, just sharing my satisfaction with the tune and Torrie's customer service. Anyone thinking of tuning and wanting something more personalized than an off the shelf tune from some of the others mentioned above, I would recommend Unleashed Tuning for sure!! Cant wait to get to a dyno and see what amount of gain he was able to tune!

 

[metroplex]

I plan to tune the ST myself later on. I've seen the compressor map for the stock turbos and it is impressive, but my expectations are low 12s based on the data I have seen. The 3.0 is basically the 2.7 and I've spent quite some time fine tuning the 2.7 in the Fusion Sport. HP Tuners constantly unlocks parameters for newer OS strategies too, so whatever you have now can be updated/improved as they are made available. It was frustrating when I first started tuning the Fusion Sport because a lot of torque limiters weren't defined in the base file, and I had to go back/forth with HPTuners to unlock them. They recently made everyone buy the MPVI2 for 2019-up Fords, and charged twice the credits for each PCM. It used to be that you can just use the MPVI for Ford/Chevy and vehicles were generally 2 credits ($100) each. But at least it is better than SCT where I had to buy a flasher/tuner module for every vehicle.

 

[mjlkwolfe@gmail.]

I have used 5 star for my last 3 ecoboost vehicles
Have the 93 octane, 94 octane & E30 calibrations loaded on my tuner
Currently using the 94 octane calibration
Huge difference in transmission & engine performance
Would be interesting how your final calibration works out

 

[ljn21]

Edited price in OP. Paid $599 not $549.

 

[blwnsmoke]

After going back and forth with @ljn21 about the tune and emailing Torrie for several days and seeing how he responds almost instantly during the day and even at 9pm on a Saturday, I decided to get his tune.

Bought it Wednesday, shipped it Wednesday, received it today and tuned it with a 93 tune. Data logged some driving to send to Torrie for review and adjustments.. going to do some WOT tomorrow and send off for review.

So far, I am amazed at the difference. I was not sure if my wife would be able to tell that it was tuned (it is hers and I have not told her lol). Pulling out of my driveway on a normal acceleration, I would have slid the year end out making that turn if it was RWD, it was not expected. After a few bumpy shifts, it settled in.. low and mid range is very impressive.

All the playing I did didnt cause the mpg to drop so I am assuming driving normally, I will see an increase. The response is amazing.. and cruising on the highway at 65 barely takes an throttle input now.

Here is a screen shot of some of the data logging I am doing. Much prefer this over a livernois device or Ngauge.

 

[metroplex]

HPTuners is fairly intuitive to use. What kind of boost levels are you seeing at WOT, and airmass flowed? You should be able to log them. The boost pressure PID is probably the easiest to use. I normally log absolute manifold pressure and subtract barometric pressure in a custom math parameter. The stock turbos should be maxing around 53-55 lb/min.

 

[blwnsmoke]

HPTuners is fairly intuitive to use. What kind of boost levels are you seeing at WOT, and airmass flowed? You should be able to log them. The boost pressure PID is probably the easiest to use. I normally log absolute manifold pressure and subtract barometric pressure in a custom math parameter. The stock turbos should be maxing around 53-55 lb/min.

To be honest, didnt really pay attention. I had my 2 girls in the car so didnt hotrod or pay attention to what the computer was showing. Had a little fun but was being safe.

That's why I need to do some WOT runs tomorrow when I am alone.

 

[metroplex]

To be honest, didnt really pay attention. I had my 2 girls in the car so didnt hotrod or pay attention to what the computer was showing. Had a little fun but was being safe.

That's why I need to do some WOT runs tomorrow when I am alone.

VCM Scanner (what you were using) can record your driving, so you can go back home at a later time to look at boost data and air mass flow, etc... This is what Torrie needs in order to fine tune his tunes. So you don't need to pay attention to the computer because it is recording everything.

 

[imanony]

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Paid $599 for the HPT MPVI2 module and necessary HPT credits. I pulled a copy of my stock tune file and emailed it to Torrie. In less than an hour I had a tune file back. I had spent some time emailing with Torrie before purchase letting him know my goals with tuning (better driveability, less lag, better mpg, power down low, larger/flatter torque curve, etc. vs just a higher peak HP). ...
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Newbie here, still reading about tuning so sorry if the questions are stupid. Did you purchase HPT MPVI2 module and credits from Torrie or hptuners.com? How much are each tune files?

After going back and forth with @ljn21 about the tune and emailing Torrie for several days and seeing how he responds almost instantly during the day and even at 9pm on a Saturday, I decided to get his tune.

Bought it Wednesday, shipped it Wednesday, received it today and tuned it with a 93 tune. Data logged some driving to send to Torrie for review and adjustments.. going to do some WOT tomorrow and send off for review.
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hey blwnsmoke, so based on my limited understanding, the tune is just file that you can email, so what did you order on Wednesday? the module?

 

[blwnsmoke]

Newbie here, still reading about tuning so sorry if the questions are stupid. Did you purchase HPT MPVI2 module and credits from Torrie or hptuners.com? How much are each tune files?



hey blwnsmoke, so based on my limited understanding, the tune is just file that you can email, so what did you order on Wednesday? the module?

HPVI2 is what I ordered with the credits all from Torrie.

 

[mjlkwolfe@gmail.]

Some interesting information here
Have always used Livernois or 5 Star
How do I contact Torri for more information

 

[ljn21]

Some interesting information here
Have always used Livernois or 5 Star
How do I contact Torri for more information

torrie@unleashedtuning.com
Unleashed Tuning - Horsepower is easy, traction is the real problem!

 

[ljn21]

Newbie here, still reading about tuning so sorry if the questions are stupid. Did you purchase HPT MPVI2 module and credits from Torrie or hptuners.com? How much are each tune files?

The MPVI2 module is $399 thru Torrie, 2020 Ex takes 4 HPT credits at $50 per credit, also thru Torrie.

 

[ljn21]

Torrie can also do the gear display in the dash, turn off Auto Start/Stop, and tune the transmission to not skip shift (ie, will not do 3-5-8 shifting, will always do 3-4-5-6-7-8 etc). I think the skip shifting is a mpg play from Ford, not sure what the advantage is of removing it, I know the Raptor guys on FRF prefer the sequential shifting. Might ask Torrie to turn the skip shifting off to try it.

 

[metroplex]

Those are pretty easy to do on HPTuners. Is that skip shift at WOT as well? Because the way the ST is geared you are doing like 2 to 3 extra shifts at the 1/4 mile wasting time.

 

[Rapid Red]

Definitely going to keep my eye on this thread. Will be curious to see some 0-60 times and daily driving mpg once you guys get it fully dialed in.

I have never done any tuning on my own, or installed a tune. So if I understand the process, you put HPtuners on your laptop, plug the laptop into the ST, download Torrie’s base tune into the ST using HPtuners, then do some runs with the laptop plugged in recording data, then send this data back to Torrie so he can fine tune your tune.

Sounds interesting!

 

[blwnsmoke]

Updated tune with gear showing now at all times. As soon as I put it in drive, it tells me what fear I am in. No more guessing or wondering when driving.

It will allow you to go to 2and gear at a full stop but no higher which is why I'm in 2and at 0mph.

 

[metroplex]

It's super easy to do.

 

[metroplex]

Torrie can also do the gear display in the dash, turn off Auto Start/Stop, and tune the transmission to not skip shift (ie, will not do 3-5-8 shifting, will always do 3-4-5-6-7-8 etc). I think the skip shifting is a mpg play from Ford, not sure what the advantage is of removing it, I know the Raptor guys on FRF prefer the sequential shifting. Might ask Torrie to turn the skip shifting off to try it.

Honestly at WOT, I'd recommend skipping a few gears. I watched some onboard vids of the ST drag racing and the gearing is ridiculously short for a few of them. It was like watching someone short shift constantly. Each time you shift is time that is wasted shifting. For the street, skip shifting is great for fuel economy and reduced wear/tear so long as you don't end up in some weird low RPM. I skip shift when I drove my Mustang GT manual (1-3-5) if I don't need to pass or speed up really quickly.

 

[mjlkwolfe@gmail.]

Updated tune with gear showing now at all times. As soon as I put it in drive, it tells me what fear I am in. No more guessing or wondering when driving.

It will allow you to go to 2and gear at a full stop but no higher which is why I'm in 2and at 0mph.

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Good morning
Whose calibration did you use?
Want the transmission sift points to show on mine as well