Top 5 Mpg Mods?

[chriswells78]

I know people who have wasted $ on TB spacers. They are a joke. Just like the Tornado, just like the magnetic fuel saver.

As for the relationship between horsepower and mileage, yes there is a relation when it comes to bolt on parts. You are increasing the efficiency of the what is already there, therefore giving what is already in place the opportunity to perform better. Greater efficiency = more horsepower from the same amount of air and gas = more mileage.

For christ sake, the kid that claims he got better mileage can't even figure out how to use his trip odometer to compute mileage from his last fill up. So he is going off of his memory of what his mileage was on his last fillup. Great, is he Rainman? He thinks because his butt dyno can't feel the difference between a Saleen and a GT there is no difference.

Furthermore, even if aldive sees a slight improvement in 1 trip, I will not be convinced. testing should be conducted in a controlled environment, with identical conditions. Air temperature, barometric pressure, elevation, terrain features all play into mileage. If the trip there is more uphill than the way back, of course he will get better mileage on the way back.

 

[Rayz2000Sport]

Apparently you cant read. I calculate my mileage everytime I fill up. Gee that would use the trip oddometer wouldnt it? Just because you cant read dosent mean that you know what you are talking about. Throttle Body Spacers Work for Some People. GET OVER IT. You can sit here and spout off as much BS as you want, but for the people that have gotten results, what diff does it make? Honestly you can sit here and "dis prove," results all you want, but I am paying less at the pump as a result of a throttle body spacer. I am getting so sick of people like you that want to contest everything someone says, get a life. If something works for somebody then it works. If it does not work for you, oh well it doesnt work for you. Why dont you spend your time trying to make constructive posts about the topic of the thread rather than trying to prove everyone wrong? This is why so many threads get closed, because people cant just accept results other people have gotten. Whether aldive finds it works or not, what does it matter? According to you it does not work, so I will be waiting for you to argue with him as well. Whether it works for him or not still does not really mean anything, because someone will want to argue one way or another. All this time spent arguing is pointless, dont you have anything better to do?

 

[Rayz2000Sport]

Give the Man a Hand!

I think this thread, like so many others on here, is getting a little out of hand. If the guys with the TBS have seen improvements in mileage and power, then that is great! For whatever reason, this modification has worked for them. Though they haven't listed exact numbers for gas mileage before and after installing the spacer, i don't feel that any member on here has the right to tell someone that the results they are seeing are not, in fact, true. And to the ones that have not installed the spacer but still are not believers, well i don't think your minds will be changing anytime soon. If aldive reports back that there is a change in mileage for him, will that make you believers? Just because he has been around the site for so long makes his observations and experiences more valid than a newer member? I just want to point out that some of the people on this site can be very stubborn, even with no personal experience to back their opinions. Maybe factual science doesn't support this modification, but for some other reason that might not have been considered (and i am no expert on this either), the spacer worked for a select few people, and we should be happy that they made a worth-while investment. And as a disclaimer, i am not taking sides because i do not have experience to support one side or the other. I simply do not want to see this thread, which started out as a topic which i am interested in, go down the drain because people couldn't agree to disagree.

 

[chriswells78]

I calc my gas mileage when I fill up at the pump and make a mental note of it.

I can read, and I just quoted what you said.

Before you go getting your pantys in a wad, you need to have good data to back up your claims. So far, every claim you have made in this thread has been off base.

You claim there is no difference between a Saleen and a GT besides a body kit and stickers.--completely unfounded and wrong.

You claim horsepower and gas mileage have nothing to do with each other.--completely unfounded an wrong.

You claim you get 4mpg out of a scrap piece of aluminum that you got suckered into paying $80 for.--And you expect people to believe this??????

 

[Rayz2000Sport]

I can read, and I just quoted what you said.

Before you go getting your pantys in a wad, you need to have good data to back up your claims. So far, every claim you have made in this thread has been off base.

You claim there is no difference between a Saleen and a GT besides a body kit and stickers.--completely unfounded and wrong.

You claim horsepower and gas mileage have nothing to do with each other.--completely unfounded an wrong.

You claim you get 4mpg out of a scrap piece of aluminum that you got suckered into paying $80 for.--And you expect people to believe this??????

First of all, dont try and play that tough guy talking down to me stuff. I really dont know who you think you are, nor do I care.

Second, when you work with these cars on somewhat of a daily basis, being able to drive them however you want (yea the customer is the only one that can take the car out on the road) you would be able to see that you can easily get ripped off.

I also never claimed that horsepower and gas mileage are not related. Throttle body spacers are not meant to give you dyno RWHP that is not there purpose. They shift the torque band to lower rpm and give gas mileage.

You can sit here and try to act like a tough guy and talk down to people all you want. But, I still get the gas mileage benefits. Thats all there is to it. And honestly I find it pretty amusing that you are this bent out of shape about it. I also find it funny that you find the time to sit inside all day and argue with me while I am between classes. Find something to do with you time. I am done arguing with you, if you goal was to try and ruin this thread then you are a success. It is a shame because it could have really been a big help to people when determing what steps they want to take to improve their own mileage. You want to call someone you dont know "kid" and make snide remarks, while you are the one acting childish and ruining what could have been a perfectly good and helpful thread. So please find something better to do.

 

[chriswells78]

Last time I checked, I wasn't the one backpeddling on the claims I made.

Go back to your college debate team and practice. Maybe get under the hood of a couple vehicles and see how things actually work. Maybe skip your social work class next quarter and pick up a physics class.

FYI, torque bands don't shift because air has to travel 1 inch farther beyond the throttle body to get to the combustion chamber. If they did, Al would have had a difference in his dyno results.

Care to continue to get owned?

 

[Rayz2000Sport]

Sad really....

Last time I checked, I wasn't the one backpeddling on the claims I made.

Go back to your college debate team and practice. Maybe get under the hood of a couple vehicles and see how things actually work. Maybe skip your social work class next quarter and pick up a physics class.

FYI, torque bands don't shift because air has to travel 1 inch farther beyond the throttle body to get to the combustion chamber. If they did, Al would have had a difference in his dyno results.

Care to continue to get owned?

You make me laugh. I really cant even take what you say seriously. Trying to attack me personally really does not bother me one bit. You are the one trying to argue about all this. I am not debating you. As for you thinking your "owning" me, now thats funny. I am not going to get into a personal argument with you, and the fact that you would try make a forum discussion personal speaks volumes about your character. Its quite obvious that you have far more time on your hands to argue over something as trivial as whether or not a throttle body spacer works. So feel free to say what you like, but me and my extra MPG have far better things to do.