U HAUL AGAINST EXPLORERS!!!!

[RickOTR]

Ok, just a small articale from the online news. There was much more on this on TV, including an interview with a Ford Rep.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/business/010804_bs_Uhaul_ford.html

 

[RileyNugent]

Thanks Ford!!! We can really watch our blue book values soar now. I wanted an Explorer for a long time. I love the way it rides. However, I am very unhappy with it and Ford Customer Service. They just don't care about us. I have contacted Ford customer service and requested assistance regarding safety issues with my car. They totally ignored my letters. I am sure that they blew U-Haul off the same way. Hey if Ford isn't going to help us make these vehicles safer I can't blame uhaul for not wanting to rent a trailer to me. I have a simple problem with my Explorer. It is my understanding that there is a faulty lip seal on the concentric clutch slave cylinder. I have heard on this forum and other forums that there are anwhere from 3 to 5 different designs for the concentric clutch slave cylinder. Ford just can't get it right. With so many designs I don't know which one to choose. I have asked Ford for help. However, I think they have the worst dealer network of any car manufacture. I called one dealer and he asked me 200 dollars just to look at it for an estimate. If anybody wants to know how to be treated by a dealer they should visit the BMW store in Cincinnati Ohio. Hopefully, I won't lose too much by the time the BMW X-3 comes out. I may just opt for the BMW X-5. I probaby should put it up for sale now!!! Anybody??? 1997 Explorer sport 4wd 5 speed and only 75,000 miles.

 

[99explorer5.0]

Here is a pic of the last trailer i rented last year towing one of my demo cars. According to Uhaul the explorer wasnt capable of towing that Delta 88 so i had to lie to them and say i was towing a Mustang. The ass end of the explorer is obviously sagging pretty bad but it towed that car without any problems. The track was about 10 mins from home ... i dont think i would want to tow a car like that for a few hundred miles.

 

[N2MUDN91]

That car is a BOAT, looks like it would smash the explorer.
Or maybe the weight of that car would Roll Over your explorer just because thats really unsafe
Thats making your X sag a little bit ya think?
Whats that car got in it? Engine wize?

Shane

 

[99explorer5.0]

I think that car was a 86 Delta 88 with a 307 in it. I won the enduro one lap drags with it and then totally smashed the car up during the 10 lap enduro, smashed to the point of not being driveable anymore.

The month before that i had a 91 grand marquis and that car also caused a tiny bit of sag on the rear like the delta did.

If i took out my jumper cables and 6 pack of soda i had in the back of the explorer maybe i wouldnt have had so much sag.

 

[V8BoatBuilder]

Originally posted by Brian97V8
also from http://www.detnews.com/2004/autosinsider/0401/08/a01-30422.htm

U-Haul has no ban on rentals to Mercury Mountaineer owners, although the vehicle is mechanically a carbon copy of the Explorer.

“We’ve had no issues with the Mercury Mountaineer,” Fried said.

Feel sorry for you guys.... :smoke: Gonna go rent a trailer....

J/K... Just shows how f-ed up the whole thing is.

 

[miche]

well as for who rents uhauls

Ive got one tied to the bumper of my car right now, its a 5x8 trailer and I didnt have a choice. I was bringing a few items from a home in one state to another....and the 29.99 to bring the couches etc was affordable.

My car its a explorer just went through 4 states, not a problem ran extremely well, their trailer someone said lighting issues ....yeah. The lights wouldnt work the 1st night on the road had to pull off, took it to a trailer dealer in pueblo, colorado who just said "its a Uhaul what do you expect". I couldnt take it to UHaul store since it was no longer on the Expedition I took it from their store on. Lights began to work on 2nd day dont know how, we tried everything and then after we gave up they came on.

This entire issue ticks me off at both ford and uhaul...ford for not standing by their product (which has become much more expensive if you are doing one way hauling) and Uhaul for screwing me. Why dosent Ford offer to pick up the extra cost of waivers for Uhauls Insurance, its probably less than a few commercials...and for Uhaul who rents ****ty hit or miss equipment, but just banned me from renting honestly since both my vehicles are explorers.

M

 

[buckdropper]

Originally posted by 99explorer5.0
Here is a pic of the last trailer i rented last year towing one of my demo cars. According to Uhaul the explorer wasnt capable of towing that Delta 88 so i had to lie to them and say i was towing a Mustang. The ass end of the explorer is obviously sagging pretty bad but it towed that car without any problems. The track was about 10 mins from home ... i dont think i would want to tow a car like that for a few hundred miles.

I would think you would have backed the car on the trailer and have the most weight in back of the trailer???.

 

[Erimikos]

If you look at the car in that picture, i can understand exactly why he did not back it on While there is not much of the car in front of the front wheels, the car continues for quite a ways past the rear wheels. Possibly far enough to make turning even more dangrous. *shrug* thats my assumption anyway

 

[99explorer5.0]

And you are correct!

That and the fact that i would rather have all the weight on my ex's rear wheels holding them to the ground. If i had put that car on there backwards and went over a bump i didnt want the trailer to lift my rear wheels off the ground (there was ALOT of bounce in the suspention with all that weight on there). The track was only 10 minutes from my home going through city streets so it wasnt too bad.

 

[lonestar]

Originally posted by buckdropper
I would think you would have backed the car on the trailer and have the most weight in back of the trailer???.

I would have thought tow dolly. Cheaper and much less tongue weight.

 

[lonestar]

I guess this is what broke the camels back.

College Students Rollover with Uhaul

 

[checkedout]

u-h**l recomends 60% of the weight towards the front.

 

[TracerBullett]

Don't know if this has been posted since I haven't read through all the posts, so I'll take the chance that it hasn't. There is a protest site up for the current issue dealing with U-haul and explorers. I suggest everyone who is against u-haul not renting to Ex owners go and sign it. http://www.dontrentfromuhaul.com/ it is a protest letter and has been put up by the http://www.mysporttrac.com moderator/owner.

At a minimum everyone interested should check it out. I think BlackMagic can back me on this as he is a regular over there as well. I haven't towed to date but I'd like to think if I needed to I'd be able to find the tools with which to do it.

 

[Soundguy01tx]

signed... it will be interesting to see the number of signed petitioners rise from 55 right now, to who knows what...
--Bryan

 

[lonestar]

Where do you see the total number signed up.

BTW, this site was also listed under More Informaiton, wasn't sure if Rick wanted to get invoiled. But maybe, everyone here seems to get along with all the other explorer and ranger related forums.

 

[Soundguy01tx]

As of Friday, January 09, 2004, 73 consumers have joined this protest.

Its at the bottom of the first page, and it already jumped 20 ppl in an hour.
--Bryan

 

[AlaskanJack]

As of Friday, January 09, 2004, 83 consumers
 have joined this protest.

Well it has apparently jumped 10 people in 15 minutes

 

[ausmartin]

Hate to rain on your parade guys.

BUT U_HAUL IS RIGHT.

Larger numbers of Ford Explorers have:
1) Roof unable to support vehicles weight with broken windscreen. - see note 1* Pg 82.

2) Vehicle unable to maintain stability with Front tyre blow out at highway speed. (Not just loss of control as you would expect but roll over even if you had train training wheels attached - see note 1*.) pg. 243-244.

3) Poor design of rear suspension causing higher tyre loads, wear etc. again leading to loss of control - see note 1* - read the book.
(Narrow Bronco chassi design & carry over front suspension causing a high centre of gravity as the engine is mounted higher to accomodate the suspension.)

Note 1*
Book "Tragic Indifference" by ADAM L. Penenberg
ISBN 0-06-009058-8

A Non Fiction book of the "real world"


Please don't flame me as I'm just stating the facts including a 1/3 of explorer accidents don't involve tyres and why would Ford be paying out owners or relatives out like fault gamming machine struck by lightning - if there was "No Issue"

Make your own mind up.

Support U-Haul and get them to add the Mecury copy as well to the ban to avoid killing more people.

I believe Ford should recall all Broncos and Ford Explorers and scrap them.

Otherwise coporation like Ford in this case get away with your lives and number of Lawers are making a real great living from this issue as they have collected a large amount of facts that Ford coporate cannot dispute in a court of law.

 

[Maniak]

I'm not going to get into the figures stated.. as you know the phrase.. figrues never lie, but liers always figure.... You can just about always skew numbers to your liking... And out of context, yes, it looks bad, but where are all the other vehicles... There are many vehicles that can't support their own weight without the winshield.. and thats just one example.


As for the comment about Ford Recalling all Explorers and Broncos... I see a better solution, Stop all the stupid un-necesary lawsuits.. Why should Uhaul be sued if somone tows a trailer UNLESS the Uhaul trailer caused the accident. If the Truck had the problem then Uhaul is not responsible for the accident.

There is an inherrant risk in Driving in General. People are suing people because they want someone to blame. Heck, I could Sue Ford since the brought Auto's to the masses and driving in general is so unsafe.. I'm not going to blame the idiot that ran the red light to hit me, I'm going to blame Ford for making vehicles affordable to people.

~Mark