What is the difference btwn an Apten and Diablo chip?

[bimmerpowered]

I was under the impression that Diablo was a separate manufacterer, but when I see posts on the Apten chip, I see mentioned "Apten Diablo" chips. Are they the same?

 

[Black Magic]

Diablo is the Hardware Mfg and Apten is the programer.

 

[bimmerpowered]

Thanks Matt. But I noticed on their site they say that they program their chips differently than Diablo and Superchips. Sorry if I am being thick.

 

[jssong]

hardware is the same.. software is different

 

[Apten]

I'll jump in here

The physical chips are the same as you would buy from any diablo dealer. The difference is what is on the chips. Think of a chip as just a method of holding the programming. If you ordered a diablo chip from just about anyone out there, you will recieve a diablo chip with a diablo program.

Diablo offers blank chips to independant tuners, and that's what Apten uses. They take the blank chips and write their own programs on those chips. The difference is in how your vehicle reacts with each chip. Although they look the same, Apten uses their own transmission programs, fuel tables, spark input, adaptive learning strategies, and other various functions. Some of the programming may be similar to what you would get in a standard diablo program, but some is very different. Apten doesn't actually get any data or programming information from Diablo.

Another thing Apten does is write a chip program specifically for your vehicle. They can use the chip program to compensate for different size tires, different gears, custom camshafts, superchargers, nitrous, or other modifications. Plus you can choose if you want your performance program to run off 92 or 87 octane gas.

So the main difference is how the program works, and the other thing is that you get your own program written for your own needs.

Brian

 

[jimbo74]

i thought the aptens chips sucked.... how are the people that have it? good or pos? i know diablo is good....

 

[psychotic]

My apten chip is good. The problems you heard had to do with people's service port being disabled, so the chip would not work. I believe Brian handled this very well and found ways to fix this for everyone.


PS- when i said i didn't notice much of a change in shift firmness, he firmed them up a little more and sent me another chip with no trouble at all. Now THATS customer service.

 

[Apten]

the 5.0L explorers have a very high number of service ports turned off, so we had to do some extra work to get those customers running. Also a few have been dealer reflashed to a different code, which also causes a chip not to work (since the chip is programmed for the old code). That would have been the same for any brand chip.

The easy way is to just send the EEC to the chip burner for scanning, but that's not always an option.

That's the only problem that we've had so far. We've also found a way to make it easy for people that have service ports turned off to get this resolved (except PATS cars)