What type of freon does a 92 have?

[wilsonwilson]

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[MrShorty]

Mine came from the factory with R-12. Last summer I had it converted to R-134a. There is supposed to be a sticker near the heater fan/a/c heat exchanger that should say what it is charged with.

 

[leenjen]

92 explorers have R12. i think that was the last year. or maybe 93 was...

 

[jimbo74]

Freon is R12....anything that isnt freon isnt R12...... the refrigerant in my 94 is R134a.... 93 was the last year they had R12

 

[Robb]

I'm not sure what the previous post means, freon refers to many refrigerants in use today, whether R12, 134A, 22, etc.......

The '92 Xs used R12. R12 is extremely expensive these days because of the "environmental" concerns with it. A conversion over to R134a may be worth your money, because of the high cost of charging( and future re-charging) of an R12 system.

Robb

 

[FrankRizzo]

"Freon" is the just brand name of refrigerant made by DuPont.

The generic name is "refrigerant".

The last year for R-12 (Dichlorodifluoromethane) in most cars was 1993, although some manufacturers held out until '94 and even '95. Production of R-12 stopped in 1996, but I still bought a $1750 GE Profile refirgerator for my house that year that used R-12...(Grrrrrrr).

R-12 is a low pressure system, 134a works at a higher pressure, so some components are not compatable. The big issue with the switch over is that the two refrigerants use different oils that do not mix.

The "up" button on my VCR remote control is not working....

 

[leenjen]

Originally posted by FrankRizzo
The "up" button on my VCR remote control is not working....

huh?

 

[leenjen]

Originally posted by FrankRizzo
Production of R-12 stopped in 1996

so does that mean there wont be anymore R12 soon?

 

[wilsonwilson]

isnt there some type of "refrigerant you can buy, t like walmart, if your vehicle has been converted over to it?

 

[jimbo74]

Originally posted by wilsonwilson
isnt there some type of "refrigerant you can buy, t like walmart, if your vehicle has been converted over to it?

yes, the stuff that is used in the conversion is the previously mentioned R134A that is fairly coomon and cheap and easily obtained...

 

[ajevenson]

Has anyone looked into the possibility of swapping out the whole a/c system from thier 91-94 model with something from another vehilce that already has R134? I ask becasue my system is shot and I have to replace all the hoses, seals, compressor is siezed, and evaporator. SOunds like just about the whole system to me!

Would something off a newer minivan work? THey are easier to find in a wreckers than an explorer.

 

[Rhett]

fyi Ford switched from R-12 to R-134a about halfway thru the 1993 model year.

 

[mosinman]

R-12 is still widely available from any mechanic you go to. They bought theirs in bulk. Just had a 93 C---- recharged that had completely leaked out the freon for $100. Even though that is expensive, you can have it done several times for the cost of a conversion. Unless you expect your 92 to last 10 more years, a conversion probably isn't worth it. The mechnic I used said there is enough R-12 out there to last another 5-10 years. When people say freon today, it is like saying Kleenex. No one asks for a "facial tissue". If your car has R134A, and you say you are leaking Freon,reasonable people will understand- even if it is correctly called refrigerant.

 

[leenjen]

i guess i wont bother getting it converted. thanks for the info

 

[Robb]

WOW, in my parts of the woods, R-12 is about $60-65 a pound. R-134a is a few marbles a pound.

Robb

 

[garebel]

just had mine converted and with everything replaced compresser, clutch ,hoses, fan ect. all total about a
$1000 . it went from cooling 60 degrees in the vent to 42 degrees and thats not on max . the switch or door it not closing all the way but it cools this good it'll be alright. well worth it to me. (i get in and the temp is 120 and 25 miles to the house its's 42 from the vent) i'm impressed

 

[leenjen]

Originally posted by garebel
just had mine converted and with everything replaced compresser, clutch ,hoses, fan ect. all total about a
$1000 . it went from cooling 60 degrees in the vent to 42 degrees and thats not on max . the switch or door it not closing all the way but it cools this good it'll be alright. well worth it to me. (i get in and the temp is 120 and 25 miles to the house its's 42 from the vent) i'm impressed

$1000!
i would rather have no AC then spend $1000 to convert to R134a. but i dont live down in GA, so maybe AC is something you need. how long are you planning on keeping your explorer?

i think i'll stick with R12.

 

[Big E]

R-12 is very expensive around here. From the converstions I have done it is cheaper to convert the R-12 system to R-134a and fill the system with R-134a then it is to charge the system with R-12. So in my opinion it would be MUCH cheaper to convert it to R-134a then it would be to stay with R-12, even later down the road it will still be much cheaper.

My two cents.

Eric

 

[FrankRizzo]

Robb -

Fly down here and air balance my X!!!!

I only get 82.6 cfm out of the rear vents.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAaa

(I amuse myself...)

 

[jimbo74]

a 30lb bottle of r12 is $850 wit ha discount we get at work

a 30lb bottle of r134a is only $150