Which cam?

[jason5.0L]

you think it's cheaper to do that?

 

[SkyJumper]

look at the link provided, and you will see that a rebuild kit is inexpensive if ou do it yourself. You most likely will have to purchase a 95 model yr kit as most online kits going into 96 and beyond recognize a 4.6 and not a 5.0, but the kit is the same for 95.

http://www.summitracing.com/search/...s/Make/FORD/Engine-Size/5-0L-302/?Ns=Rank|Asc

Just a idea for you.

Buy yourself a honer if you have a drill, and hone out the cylinders yourself.

 

[jason5.0L]

Wow.. lots of different types. Thanks a ton for the advice.. Pretty good prices, yea I can do all the work myself I have some help too. The main difference in price is because of the forged pistons?

 

[SkyJumper]

Well, you can do anything you want, but like I said, if you want performance, then you need to do it right, from ground up, and common sense. And the knowledge and know how will save you thousands and money saved can be spent elsewhere, for future upgrades.

Just remember to think it out, invision what you are after, and what is it going to take to get there. Map it, budget it, then build it. Then the pride and knowledge afterwards will go a long ways in the future of your ride.

 

[jason5.0L]

Yea.. that's the idea. I don't want to go crazy with hp but it's gona be tough with that motor, we're talking about a 90-100hp increase from the factory 210hp. as long as the block can handle it i have to see what will give the best/reliable hp gains for a reasonable amount of money. That rebuild kit should be a great starter before I start messing with the actual components of the engine. Also I have to make sure the tranny can hold it

 

[SkyJumper]

Do not worry about the block handling more power, it will. 5.0 motors are tough motors, and aftermarket is tremendous. The tranny will be ok as long as it is realiable and not slipping or worn out. And if that is the case, then the money you save by doing engne build yourself can be spent on a rebuild of the tranny.

 

[jason5.0L]

Yea the tranny is good for the most part.. just shudders a little from time to time but that's an easy fix. the rebuild will be a great, I'm porting the heads in a few weeks and that I can do myself except I may have my guy with a machine shop make sure the valves sit properly and just smooth out the bottom if the heads

 

[SkyJumper]

Well good luck on it and keep us informed with pics as you go ahead with it. Should be fun for you to do it all yourself and be proud of it and it actually tends to make you appreciate it even more and take care of it more nowing you did it. Good Luck

Start yourself a build thread for it.

 

[jason5.0L]

Will do, Thanks a ton for the help again I really appreciate it!

 

[FatJoe]

check out this shortblock...get this one and add whatever heads,cam,intake combo you want and that should get you over 300 easy
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/LRS-6009E/79-95-Economy-50L-Mustang-Short-Block

 

[FatJoe]

and maybe this top end kit and some good flowing exhaust to get 300 or more
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com...-50L-Trick-Flow-Street-Burner-Top-End-Kit-Slv

 

[jason5.0L]

Yea that's much more towards where I'm looking at to spend..looks like a great website. Thanks!

 

[TekMan05]

That does look nice. The question is, since those parts for the engine is geared towards foxbody mustangs will those be a direct swap with Explorer 5.0's? As far as clearance, front dress, transmission bell housings, OBDII computers? And is the torque curve lower for Explorer applications?>

 

[jason5.0L]

That's a good question, might be something I'd have to call the company about and see if they'd know. If not, maybe a Ford specialist. I know there's not a lot of room in the Explorer engine bay, it's a different setup than the mustang.

 

[TekMan05]

Ok so I inquired with JEGS and this is what their customer service replied in response to a high flow cat system and engine rebuild.

Thank you for your question and interest in Jegs High Performance.



To answer your convertor question the product that offers the best fit to value is Magnaflow as they are direct fit, driver side is part number 642-93107 and the passenger side is 642-93106. We do not offer any rebuild kits but we do have individual parts to build a custom high performance engine. Once you get the engine apart, inspected and machined we can help you with pistons, rings and bearings. I would recommend the Ford racing 397-M-6250-E303K camshaft and lifter kit as it will work with all of your stock components and offer a slight performance upgrade.



Please click on the underlined products above for more information and to view the products online. You can order online at www.jegs.com or over the phone at 1-800-345-4545 24/7. We offer fast same day shipping on in stock items ordered before 9pm EST, a “to your door” price match guarantee and 100% customer satisfaction. We look forward to your order and if you need further assistance feel free to contact us.



Thank you,



This is the cat set they recommended. http://www.jegs.com/i/Magnaflow/642/93107/10002/-1 http://www.jegs.com/i/Magnaflow/642/93106/10002/-1

This is the cam and lifter kit they recommended. http://www.jegs.com/i/Ford+Racing/397/M-6250-E303K/10002/-1

In my case , I'm not looking for HUGE power gains. Just a refresh while adding a little bit of additional performance. Any 5.0 Guru's wanna weigh in their suggestion?

 

[techieman33]

Ok so I inquired with JEGS and this is what their customer service replied in response to a high flow cat system and engine rebuild.

Thank you for your question and interest in Jegs High Performance.



To answer your convertor question the product that offers the best fit to value is Magnaflow as they are direct fit, driver side is part number 642-93107 and the passenger side is 642-93106. We do not offer any rebuild kits but we do have individual parts to build a custom high performance engine. Once you get the engine apart, inspected and machined we can help you with pistons, rings and bearings. I would recommend the Ford racing 397-M-6250-E303K camshaft and lifter kit as it will work with all of your stock components and offer a slight performance upgrade.



Please click on the underlined products above for more information and to view the products online. You can order online at www.jegs.com or over the phone at 1-800-345-4545 24/7. We offer fast same day shipping on in stock items ordered before 9pm EST, a “to your door” price match guarantee and 100% customer satisfaction. We look forward to your order and if you need further assistance feel free to contact us.



Thank you,



This is the cat set they recommended. http://www.jegs.com/i/Magnaflow/642/93107/10002/-1 http://www.jegs.com/i/Magnaflow/642/93106/10002/-1

This is the cam and lifter kit they recommended. http://www.jegs.com/i/Ford+Racing/397/M-6250-E303K/10002/-1

In my case , I'm not looking for HUGE power gains. Just a refresh while adding a little bit of additional performance. Any 5.0 Guru's wanna weigh in their suggestion?

That's some funny stuff right there. Might be ok for a slight upgrade but that's about it. As I've said before start with a custom cam builder, they will be able to spec out your build for the cam. Want to keep stock heads and intake, that's fine just tell them and they'll build the cam to give you the most out of them and tell you what springs, etc to put on for maximum results.

The mangnaflow cat pipes aren't bad, but not good either. Going to be just like stock parts. For the price you would pay for a pair you could have an exhaust shop build new cat pipes that would be bigger, which you'll want if you want to make big power.

 

[TekMan05]

lol Honestly I didn't really feel what they were suggesting either. And yess at this point I'm thinking of just keeping the stock heads and intake. But I definitely do wanna put higher flowing cats on here and maybe even upsize the piping up to 2.5'' back to where I may put an X-pipe at (Rear cat location looks pretty good). It's funny Jegs has high flow cats just without the piping I don't know why they didn't suggest that to me when I told them I can have them welded in by someone I know.
Kinda narrowing down what I want to do with mine. I have a GT which I would rather dump the major amount of money building more horsepower. I'm just wanting to keep my truck on the road for another 15 years while adding a "lil something something" to the fun factor. I inquried also with cam motion let me put their specs on here from their cam suggestion
Here is what we suggest:
dur. @ .050 int. 216 exh. 220
lift with 1.6 .496 .504
lobe sep. 112
int. c/l 108
this cam will not have a noticeable ideal it will be pretty much smooth idle but this is as big as a cam you need for what you want to do with the vehicle.
Price on the cam runs $349.00 plus frt..
Thanks
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To be honest they didn't really help too much. No part number, no suggested parts to go with it.
Let the search continue. Anyone on here have a cammed NON stroked 5.0 on here? Maybe they'd be able to chime in more on this.

 

[SkyJumper]

To be honest they didn't really help too much. No part number, no suggested parts to go with it.
Let the search continue. Anyone on here have a cammed NON stroked 5.0 on here? Maybe they'd be able to chime in more on this.

Well you will get this type of vague answers from most warehouse parts suppliers as they are not builders and are not able or allowed to give you advice other than what is in there parts application specific description data base. So the best bet on most engine internals outside of stock or normal upgrading you need to talk to an actual speed shop or machine shop and give them specifics on what you have and want.

Most of their disclaimers simply state just that as liability comes into play and they will never put themselves in the position of you claiming your engine blew up after they suggested aftermarket parts that go to a rebuild without you asking for specific parts that are outside of stock parameters. They will sale you anything that they stock, but you have to ask for it specific outside of replacement or normal upgrade status parts.

 

[techieman33]

Jegs is just going to try and sell you expensive parts, that's what they're there to do. As far as what cam motion gave you, they're not going to give you all the answers for free. When you buy the cam they will tell you what you need.

 

[SkyJumper]

Jegs is just going to try and sell you expensive parts, that's what they're there to do. As far as what cam motion gave you, they're not going to give you all the answers for free. When you buy the cam they will tell you what you need.

That is true about any parts distributor. They will try and sell you the most expensive part or the ones they have allocated as a promotion sale with kickbacks to them. But they are only going to go by what you ask for specific, and or what is in their part application description on their computer. They will not go out on a limb and suggest something to you that is not described not to be a replacement or upgrade to each own application. JEGS or SUMMIT Racing will not even do that for their sponsered cars, that is the techs responsibility.