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1997 Ford Explorer - V8 - 5.0 - AWD

Discussion in 'Stock 1995 - 2001 Explorers' started by Spudhut, November 21, 2017.

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    Should I pick this up?

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    1. Spudhut

      Spudhut US Navy Submariner Elite Explorer

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      Alright! I went to the JY on my lunch break and picked up 2 senders - Ill keep you posted on what I find out.
       
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    3. Spudhut

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      I installed the 'new' units and ....NOTHING! I cant imagine both were bad. I did a resistance check on them after it warmed up. I was seeing 2.85k ohms on the meter (set at 20k ohms). The gauge still registers to hot when grounded.... Either the sending unit is not grounding properly or .... hmmm. My next check to to verify the wire from the sender has continuity back to the gauge cluster....I'm betting its good.

      Does anyone know if the gauge is 'swappable' like the older style or is it integrated in the cluster as one piece on the circuit board?

      Anyone else want to chime in? @CDW6212R ??? I have read multiple threads and they swing from replacing the thermostat (not sure how this would do anything) to replacing both sensors. I'm not sure or clear on the fact that the PCM sensor has any affect on the gauge operation itself.

      I'm not opposed to putting in an aftermarket gauge - I planned on fabricating a pillar gauge/switch holder in the future anyways.

      Thanks!
       
    4. CDW6212R

      CDW6212R Hauls the mail. Elite Explorer

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      I'd suspect the gauge itself too. It seems that you've checked just about everything else.

      The gauges are pressed into place in three pieces in these clusters. The middle section is the speedo/tach, and the two side parts are for those pairs of gauges. The faces differ in various models, but I think any 2nd gen temp gauge will swap directly into your cluster.

      You just remove the cluster, then the several screws around the edges, take the cover off, and gently pull the gauge sections out. They all have steel pins, sharp and pointed, which engage into small holes in the cluster housing. The three sets overlap slightly, I forget which has to come out first. It's very easy to figure out and do. The only thing to watch for is to not touch the fragile gauge needles.
       
    5. Turdle

      Turdle I bake stuff Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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      Just a stupid question, but, have you checked all fuses? there are at least 3 protecting the cluster IIRC.
       
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      Not a stupid question - I was not aware of this. Thanks!
       
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      This should be close
      Interior fuse panel (mini fuses)

      1=7.5A Power mirror switch
      2=7.5A Blower motor relay,PAD module,Air Bag diagnostic monitor
      3=7.5A Trailer tow connector
      4=10A Left headlamp
      5=10A Data link connector (DLC)
      6=7.5A Air bag diagnostic monitor, Blower motor relay, Passive deactivation Module (PAD)
      7=7.5A Trailer Tow connector
      8=10A Right headlamp, Daytime running lamps (DRL) module, Foglight relay
      9=7.5A Stop Lamp switch
      10= 7.5A Speed control-amplifier assembly,Brake pressure switch, Generic electronoc Module (GEM)
      Shift lock actuator, Blend door actuator, Main light switch, RABS resistor, A/C heater assembly
      Flasher
      11= 7.5A Instrument cluster, Main light switch, RABS resistor
      12= 10A Power window relay, Washer pump relay
      13= 20A Stop lamp switch, Brake pressure switch
      14= 20A Rear Anti Lock Brake system (RABS) module
      **10A 4WABS module**

      15=7.5A Instrument cluster
      16= 30A Windshield wiper Motor, Wiper Hi-lo relay, wiper run/park relay
      17=7.5A Cig lighter
      18=15A Drivers unlock relay-All unlock relay
      19=25A PCM power diode
      20=7.5A RAP module GEM module, Radio
      21=15A Flasher (hazard)
      22=20A Aux power socket
      23=15A Turn signals
      24===not used
      25= 7.5A GEM module, Instrument cluster
      26= 10A Battery saver relay, Electronic Shift relay, Interior lamp relay
      Power window relay,Electronic shift control module, transmission control
      27=15A Switch,DRL, Backup lamp switch, DTR sensor,Instrument illumination dimming control module
      Dome/map lamp, GEM,electronic shift,Interior lights,Glove box lamp and switch
      28=7.5A GEM module-Radio
      29= 15A Radio
      30=15A Park lamps, trailer Tow relay
      31===not used
      32=10A rear blower
      33=15A Headlamps, DRL module, Instrument cluster
      34=7.5A Rear integrated control panel, CD
      35=10A RABS test connector
      36=7.5A CD, rear integrated control panel, memory seat, Message center
       
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