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Jakee's 4.0 SOHC Build up discussion and motivation thread

After Camber adjusters, Body bushings, rear sway bar, and brakes are complete, I'll be posting baseline dyno numbers. First things first. Must be safe!


EDIT (11-6-2007)

Let me save you some time by posting the summary to this thread. The thread is filled with a bunch of off topic ramblings. Read on if you want but be warned.

Summary to this thread....

I'm going to attempt to close this thread because the N/A goal is coming to an end. I really lost interest in the N/A goal a few months back, and It just doesn't make sense (from a $/HP perspective) to buy anymore bolt-ons when the force feed options are available for us 4.0 SOHC guys. I would rather save the money to buy a turbo than to keep spending big bucks for little gains. And so, this is what I did, and these are my opinions on how the mod worked out.

The first thing was the intake. I can remember going around in circles trying to figure out which one to buy. The Volant? no, the K&N....wait a minute, the MAC is cheaper? Anyways, I finally decided on the MAC intake because of the cost. All and all, an intake is an intake. You're not going to see a big huge difference between any of them, but I still feel the best out there is the Volant. I believe in a "Closed" intake. In other words; I don't like the idea of sucking hot engine air thru an open filter under the hood. That's just me and the difference between a "Closed" intake and an "Open" is very small. I did, however, see a gain from customizing the MAC intake by closing in the air filter with a trash can....Yes, you heard me right, a freaking trash can that I cut to fit in the engine bay. It worked good and people usually don't notice what it is. They just think it looks cool. Anyways, I also replaced the MAC filter with a Volant filter; cut a 3-1/2" hole thru the fender and placed a Volant filter thru it. No water can get to it, well....not from this area....I then added spectra hoses from the front of the vehicle where the fog lights were for a "Ram air" attempt. I had a couple of aluminum parts machined for a clean install. That was it for the intake.

Next, I believe I ordered the 73MM C&L from hensonperfromance. This housing uses the same electronics but is just a bit bigger than the stock plastic MAF housing. The gain was small, but was worth it. I believe I've found dyno's of a 7 RWHP gain? Not sure, but there is a gain there.

The TB was the next thing. I purchased a 4.6 TB from KBX performance because I heard a guy named James had discovered it to work with the 4.0 SOHC. I later fooled around and half shafted it. Basically, what that does is removes half the rod that the butterfly is attached too. Do a search on "half shafting a TB" or something like that to get more details. I believe this mod really doesn't give big HP; more throttle response than anything but it's worth it.

When I had the TB off, I noticed this big tube right in the way of the airflow. The tube is the EGR valve and the reason it's sticking in there is to evenly vent exhaust gases back in the intake. Do not remove the EGR valve; it actually helps you. What I did was remove the part that's in the way of the air-flow. I have no idea if this helped me, but It felt like it did. The only ill effect I can think of is maybe one side of the engine is getting more EGR flow; however, I haven't seen traces of this on the spark plugs so I believe it's good.

Now for the exhaust....yeah, it's hard to get a 4.0 SOHC to sound good. In fact, I think mine still sounds pretty bad. I started off with the Gibson Cat back and if your looking for a "Slightly louder than stock" exhaust, then this is the one for you. The gain was good and I liked the sound but I wasn't satisfied. I felt there might be just a little more power I could unleash so I tried a higher flow muffler; a magna-flow. I started off by having a custom Y-pipe made. It has 2-1/4" primaries that y's into a 3" single exhaust. The pipes run back a little ways and goes into a 3" magnaflow cat, then into a 2-1/2" magnaflow muffler, and dumps right before the rear axle. The flow is there but the sound.....I hate it.

I also added JBA stainless headers. I have to say that headers are very expensive for the 4.0 SOHC but there is gain, trust me. If your looking for EVERYTHING you can from the engine, add headers to it later on down the road.

Next is under-drive pulleys....This is one of the better mods in my opinion. The under-drive crank pulley works by slowing down the serpentine belt, which in return, slows down all the accessories running off the belt. The result is more power to your back tires. The only problem I had was it slows the alternator down too much. The fix is an overdrive alt pulley and I added one to speed the alt back up. Problem solved. I'm also running a underdrive water pump pulley with no problems what so ever.

Another good mod is a electric fan. I went with the flex-a-lite 180 and haven't had a problem yet. Very good quality pc.

The best mod, in my opinion, is a tuner. I went with a SCT XCAL II that I picked up from hensonperformance. I think this changed my truck the most and I'm very pleased.

I believe this about sums it up. Every pc of info I just typed here is on the net, and most is right here in this forum, but I wanted to compile some of it for reference purposes....

I made a goal at the begining of this thread, but I'm really not interested anymore. It doesn't make a hill of beans to have high dyno numbers, but it is nice. The only dyno I had sucked; I made 189 to the rear wheels. I'm thinking I'm a bit higher than that but I'm not worried about it.


Next project......TURBO!! and I'll probably do a baseline for this. If so, I'll add the baseline dyno here so there will be N/A results.
 



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Xan - By the way; welcome to the explorer forum.
 






Ok i highly doubt the 30hp... but i'll tell you theres a big difference from siting on a dyno and actualy driving (this is why most dynos places blow big fans at your car while you make your runs), i'm not gonna doubt he got some more power sitting on a dyno but i know actualy driving it would hurt the power.

but if you really want to think you're hot stuff i'll race ya any time with my truck or car if you install a "electric supercharger" in your intake and we can race for cash

Sorry, hard to get sarcasm across on the internet. I thought the smiley would do the job. I WAS JOKING! :wavey: :p: :confused:
 






Hey guys - Just in case you haven't been following some of the other threads out there I would like to let you in on something.

James (AKA JAH81592) owns Henson performance and is a vendor here. He is a up and coming tuner and he is going to "remote tune" me. In other words, I will do some pulls on the backroads and shot him the datalogs. He will then adjust and we'll make some more pulls. I'm not sure how many pulls I'll have to make before being tuned but this is the plan. Also, james will make a thread describing how this process works.

After all this is done, I'll go and get some numbers for you guys so you can see where I'm at. The beauty of this all is you don't have to just live with a Mail order tune anymore when you don't live close to your tuner. You can be remote tuned and be VERY close to the max of your vehicle.

Now, if I ever decide to do some sort of force feed induction, I will fly James up to me so he can get in my truck and listed for anthing that might be wrong.


Do you have a wideband for the remote tuning?
 






I don't have the money to mod my truck up anymore i'm a extreamly poor college student living on loans and grants. haha, you're obviously not. this is how racing works Money 90% engineering 5% driving 5%


Xan - Are all your mods listed in your sig? If so then....


If you post a time slip in the need for speed forum in the next month; I promise to post one faster, with my 4.0 SOHC. If I don't, I'll convert my truck to a rock climber. What do you say?
 






See thats whats weird with some of you need-for-speed guys.. greed and the "mine is faster than yours" mentality .. come on over to the off-roading world where you wheel what you have and there's none of this drama :D

This thread is going down the tubes...AGAIN... It's sad really.

Oh and BTW I'll smoke all of you "streeters" with my 35s and stock engine with 200k + miles on it. Even rocket. :p:
 






This thread is going down the tubes...AGAIN... It's sad really.

Oh and BTW I'll smoke all of you "streeters" with my 35s and stock engine with 200k + miles on it. Even rocket. :p:




Hell yeah you will! You would murder me through a big mudhole. ;) Of course I might just cheat and let all the air out of your tires. :D






















Ok it is official now this thread has gone to the crapper... Anyone care to see my crapton to boost conversion chart while were at it? :p:
 






Hell yeah you will! You would murder me through a big mudhole. ;) Of course I might just cheat and let all the air out of your tires. :D

Ok it is official now this thread has gone to the crapper... Anyone care to see my crapton to boost conversion chart while were at it? :p:

hey rocket, what do you think about electric superchargers like jakee wants to run ? :D
 












hey rocket, what do you think about electric superchargers like jakee wants to run ? :D



I'm thinking about bolting my leaf blower to the intake of my lawn mower so I can actually cut my grass less often than every few days. :thumbsup: ;)
 


















Guys - In case you haven't noticed, this thread has been in the "crapper" for along time.

But to clear something up....I WILL NOT BUY A ELECTRIC SUPERCHARGER!!!! That was meant as a joke and those who know me know I'm joking. I didn't mean to cause such a controversy.

XAN - If you noticed, I didn't take your money bet because I honestly don't work that way. I believe that a good challenge is great but when it goes to money, things will get out of hand. Let's save the money bets for chevy's.
 






Froader - I really like you.
 






Back on topic...

I got the headers in yesterday. Hmmmm, I hope these things perform better than they look. I can see A LOT of things that I would have changed if I were to build these myself.

First...
thing is the collector. I believe the collector is around 2-1/4" (Just like the y-pipe that we're building) but it's then reduced back to 2" at the actual "ball" where the pipes bolt up. The only reason I can think of is because these are designed for the stock y-pipe. No wonder people are not seeing big gains with headers....Hmmmmm, room for improvement...(My opinion)

Second...
The primaries are not equal lenths. I'm sort of amazed why JMA didn't change some of the primaries around so that the lengths would be closer to a match....Room for improvement.

Third...
I'm not sure who slapped these things together but they should really consider maybe slowing down a little to get better quality...

Forth...
The "titanium" coating I got doesn't look real good. If I were to do this over, I would get the "silver" coating.

Now, let's see what these things will do as far as performance.
 






Do you have a wideband for the remote tuning?


Justin - I'll have to get one. I haven't got it yet but It's a requirment James has so I can log the Air/fuel to a given RPM.
 






I'm thinking about bolting my leaf blower to the intake of my lawn mower so I can actually cut my grass less often than every few days. :thumbsup: ;)


I was thinking of an STS style Turbo on my riding lawn mower....










But, I don't have a riding lawn mower.
 






Guys - In case you haven't noticed, this thread has been in the "crapper" for along time.
XAN - If you noticed, I didn't take your money bet because I honestly don't work that way. I believe that a good challenge is great but when it goes to money, things will get out of hand. Let's save the money bets for chevy's.

i don't got a chevy but i got a pontiac
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Ok i highly doubt the 30hp... but i'll tell you theres a big difference from siting on a dyno and actualy driving (this is why most dynos places blow big fans at your car while you make your runs), i'm not gonna doubt he got some more power sitting on a dyno but i know actualy driving it would hurt the power.

but if you really want to think you're hot stuff i'll race ya any time with my truck or car if you install a "electric supercharger" in your intake and we can race for cash

Did I hear race for cash? I am in! Whats the pot?
 






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