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Maybe today's MAFs are more accurate but "back in the day" they came with a calibration sheet based on bench flow testing them. This is what was used in the tune for the MAF flow data.
The SCT MAF's are well known by tuners, Lasota will have the calibration data handy to make the tune with.
He sent me 2more tunes I think we are up to ten
The first one worked started up ran bad then the computer took over
It cleared up I took a log and sent it
 



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The SCT MAF's are well known by tuners, Lasota will have the calibration data handy to make the tune with.
For N/A tunes on basically stock engines using the bench flow numbers in the MAF table for the tune isn't critical. For forced induction it is a better way to go which is why having flow bench data for the specific MAF being used is ideal. It probably doesn't help Lasota that tuning a Roots supercharged 4.0L SOHC engine isn't done often.
 












It is now a combination of the injectors and upped fuel pressure. We have no specific values for the 47s at 69 FP and it would be different. I tried a ‘trick’ we sometimes use on the first files. But it did not like that. Later I put the values back to stock for 47s at 40 FP and that is what I am using now. Not the best way to do it, because we are adjusting fuel flow increase by compensating for increased fuel flow. I do have values for 42# injectors at 65 FP, but I do not want to use them as I think it’d really get screwy............from lasota
 












It is now a combination of the injectors and upped fuel pressure. We have no specific values for the 47s at 69 FP and it would be different. I tried a ‘trick’ we sometimes use on the first files. But it did not like that. Later I put the values back to stock for 47s at 40 FP and that is what I am using now. Not the best way to do it, because we are adjusting fuel flow increase by compensating for increased fuel flow. I do have values for 42# injectors at 65 FP, but I do not want to use them as I think it’d really get screwy............from lasota
I used a fuel pressure regulator to let the injectors run at a consistent fuel pressure close to stock. This made tuning a lot easier. Especially when tuning wasn't as refined as it is today.
 












2005 to 2000 something
Mustang v6 4.0sohc
The 2005-2010 Mustangs had the 4.0L SOHC engine but the overwhelming majority of them used centrifugal blowers which are much easier to tune. Then add in that very few of these engines saw forced induction at all. Centrifugals don't make much power under 4.5k-5k RPM which is much easier to tune verses a Roots or twin screw making anywhere from zero to full boost depending on throttle position and at any RPM. I might be wrong but I think your build is very rare.
 






The 2005-2010 Mustangs had the 4.0L SOHC engine but the overwhelming majority of them used centrifugal blowers which are much easier to tune. Then add in that very few of these engines saw forced induction at all. Centrifugals don't make much power under 4.5k-5k RPM which is much easier to tune verses a Roots or twin screw making anywhere from zero to full boost depending on throttle position and at any RPM. I might be wrong but I think your build is very rare.
Should I take that as a compliment
I'm hoping everything works out
 






I don't see your build as that rare regarding tuning. A twin screw blower makes less heat, boost comes on earlier and has a flatter boost curve than a turbo or centrifugal blower. So you want it to go into open loop fuel earlier than a centrifugal, less heat is not a problem nor is the flatter boost curve. A centrifugal blower is not any harder to tune, just a bit different and yes My first tune and blower was a cheapy Powerdyne.

The MAF wouldn't be the problem as your tuner should have the MAF curve input for your MAF. I have not heard of a need to flow test a MAF, they are precise instruments, and come with a MAF curve or table which is what a tuner would put into the MAF Curve in the tune.

The injectors should also have been input properly, but the fact that the pressure is higher makes for additional calculations to get it close. Then datalogging to fine tune with the MAF curve if necessary. It took me some time with my blown 4.0 and now 5.0

I am using all the injector parameters except for increasing the injector slopes for the higher fuel pressure. I am running what would be considered 43lbs injectors at the typical pressure, at 65psi I have my injectors set in the tune as low slope at 55 and high slope at 50. The EEC compensates for rich conditions with injectors at idle and low RPM by using an injector break point, below a certain threshold the EEC switches to low slope and fires as a 55lb injector which means a shorter pulse width and less fuel. That cures typical rich conditions down low. The rest of the time it is using the high slope. The high slope is supposed to be the injector size but we got more fuel pressure and more fuel.

I think the stock 19lb injector are in the tune for the 4.0 at around 24lbs...................................for the higher fuel pressure.

I have heard nothing but good about your tuner and wonder, sometimes new parts don't work right, and I hope that is not the case.
 






I have heard nothing but good about your tuner and wonder, sometimes new parts don't work right, and I hope that is not the case.
I hope no parts came doa
Wth the last tune he sent me it idled I took a two min log sent it to him and will hear from him tomorrow it did settle down to 700 rpm for the two mins I left it running
 






I used a fuel pressure regulator to let the injectors run at a consistent fuel pressure close to stock. This made tuning a lot easier. Especially when tuning wasn't as refined as it is today.
I disagree. I don't buy that fuel pressure varies that much as to effect tuning. The Tweecer has been available for sale since 2001. I am not sure how long the Quarterhorse or SCT has been available. The tuning parameters have been there from the start. There would be no tuning unless the Ford Strategies were broke out/hacked and there from the start to work with.
 






if you have don tuning for you, you are in safe hands. he has done a few trucks, including mine when i started all of this. he can also spot a problem by reading the data log as well sometimes.
 






if you have don tuning for you, you are in safe hands. he has done a few trucks, including mine when i started all of this. he can also spot a problem by reading the data log as well sometimes.
He did he told me one of my o2 sensors was off a little
He said it was most likely from fuel washing over it while trying to start it
It was only s few years old
He seems to like this kind of puzzle
He told me nice job on the install to that was nice to
 






Should I take that as a compliment
I'm hoping everything works out
I mean it in a good way. Your build is very practical for a heavy SUV in that it provides a lot of low/mid range torque. It will work out. You have put things together well and you have a good tuner. Lasota will get it running right eventually.
 






I mean it in a good way. Your build is very practical for a heavy SUV in that it provides a lot of low/mid range torque. It will work out. You have put things together well and you have a good tuner. Lasota will get it running right eventually.
Today we did a idle down hot
And a free rev 1500-2000-2500-3000 rpm 20 sec each

I also worked on the extra idler pulley
Welding it all the way around and wielded the nut for the pulley
Don't look the best but
Its my first time welding anything
Ill get some pictures now
 






Ok let's hear the welding jokes
My first time trying to weld

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Looks very good to me. Especially for a first effort.
 






Looks very good to me. Especially for a first effort.
Thanks
I followed the metal thickness chart in the welder lid
And just went for it
Used a hand grinder to clean up the welds
Then cleaning it and painted it
 



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Went to do the loaded revs
Drove about 1/8 mile and it went full lean ping spark knock and stalled
Then it started fine then did it again limped to the driveway
Then it idled fine
Again I could see all this happening on the af gauge and the bucking and pinging
 






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