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yeah already tried that trick too. you don't hear any difference really even if you soak the entire motor. i'm going to have it towed to a shop the family knows well hopefully it's not too bad on the wallet thanks for the help though.

not a problem, just put it back together and i still have a hard miss as well as a vacuum leak somewhere when it runs which to keep it running you have to give it a little throttle to keep it running. who knows i get the feeling i may be beyond what i know/can do i just really hate to pay a shop...

i appreciate it i'm going to go ahead and use both see if that does anything. it's a serious vacuum leak enough to cause a misfire you can hear it leaking from somewhere pretty badly i just hope this is the fix as i'm quickly running out of ideas.

i understand there are threads and i've searched. the replacement gasket for the upper intake manifold from autozone or advanced comes with two identical gaskets do i use both of them or just one? thats pretty much the question from my previous post.. in all the threads where i've searched it...

well can anyone at least tell me if you're supposed to use both upper intake manifold gaskets? the old one was one solid piece the fel-pro replacement has two gaskets.. if you are supposed to use both do they go in is there any specific way?

long story short i had a bad coolant leak it was the LIM. replace the gaskets put everything back together and it's misfiring rechecked the firing order everythings good. so i tried to pull it off the ramps and it had no power what so ever in gear with the pedal to the floor it just bogs...