02 ranger with 5.0 4r70 and 4406 t case please help

[richardumberger]

Everything is bolted up and motor runs just had exhaust put on. Prob is i dont have any wiring connected to manual t case. Also i havent put my 02 sensors in yet. Problem i am having is that the truck wont shift out of 1st all the time and when it does it doesn't come out of 2nd. Speedo doesnt work. Could the truck be in limp mode or do i have to have a vss or oss hook up to make this thing know when to shift? Im almost ready to throw awd case back in so i can drive it. You can email me a buddyumberger@gmail.com if you have any suggestions or can help. Thanks

 

[VR4]

Yes you need vss

 

[richardumberger]

ok I've been told 2 different things. I'm hearing it gets it from the rear end sensor and I've heard that it gets it from a sensor on the t case. nothing is connected to the t case as of right now it's bolted in and has shifter bolted to it no wiring connections. im pretty sure but will check that the 4406 is a 98 f150 case. it supposedly has a vss gear in it and was told to run it to the grey/black wire to pin 7 on main harness. I'm really getting confused as what to do.

 

[VR4]

ok I've been told 2 different things. I'm hearing it gets it from the rear end sensor and I've heard that it gets it from a sensor on the t case. nothing is connected to the t case as of right now it's bolted in and has shifter bolted to it no wiring connections. im pretty sure but will check that the 4406 is a 98 f150 case. it supposedly has a vss gear in it and was told to run it to the grey/black wire to pin 7 on main harness. I'm really getting confused as what to do.

Depends on the year your v8 came from. Pre 97 had vss on the trans/xcase. You'll need this if you don't have it.

98+ with pats use the diff wss.

 

[RangerX]

Please use just one thread on this topic. I've closed your other one so the discussion can continue and remain all in one place.

 

[richardumberger]

Its a 98 explorer 5.0 and tranny but my ranger was an 02 that used oss. I used expo engine trans and wiring harness for engine attached to my ranger bay harness. From what ive read the ranger got its speed signal from some magnetic thing in the transmission/transfer case. I do have the sensor on rear diff but so did ranger. Could that sensor be bad and be causing this?


And sorry i was told on other post i needed to post here for more help

 

[VR4]

If the ranger uses an actual vss the wiring from the diff sensor isn't going to the pcm. It's abs only. I'll see if I can dig up a diagram later

 

[delexploder]

Yea there are a few V8 ranger threads on here you can search for , also did you swap the wires around for your tach ? If not search in the V8 swap threads for that also , and if you can repost the info you put in the other thread that got closed in this one and we will be better able to help you

 

[richardumberger]

Yeah the wire from like pin 8 or something to pin 16.

 

[richardumberger]

I also have a solid axle but even before that my abs light has been on since ive had the truck in 2005. I didnt swap the ranger abs for expo abs. I dont know if that would make a difference

 

[richardumberger]

I had pats disabled with a tune along with cats and egr. I also had the tune wrote for my 37s and 4.56 gears. I swapped a couple of the wires at main harness to match the ranger and expo in order to get ranger to run. truck idles good and will reverse and go into drive fine. its just when I get to speed to go to 2nd gear it acts funny. no power at all barely will go up an incline. also speedometer does not move.

 

[boominXplorer]

You need to wire in the abs g-force module / signal converter for the trans to shift right. It will be just in front of the gas tank on the drivers frame rail on the explorer.

The speedo and pats is why I used 97.5 computer and wiring in my swap with a 98 engine and trans. Other than some repinning of the harness it was pretty plug and play. My only issue was getting the a/c clutch to work correctly.

 

[VR4]

You need to wire in the abs g-force module / signal converter for the trans to shift right. It will be just in front of the gas tank on the drivers frame rail on the explorer.

The speedo and pats is why I used 97.5 computer and wiring in my swap with a 98 engine and trans. Other than some repinning of the harness it was pretty plug and play. My only issue was getting the a/c clutch to work correctly.

I wasn't sure if the signal would work. Never looked into this swap.

 

[richardumberger]

What if i put a vss plug on my transfer case and run the wiring to the harness grey/black wire and ground?


http://www.autozone.com/1/products/474106-vehicle-speed-sensor-connector-597-duralast-597.html

 

[boominXplorer]

What if i put a vss plug on my transfer case and run the wiring to the harness grey/black wire and ground?


http://www.autozone.com/1/products/474106-vehicle-speed-sensor-connector-597-duralast-597.html

That "should" work or at least give you a speedo. I'm running a 98 4406 case with a vss on the output and I used the signal from it to feed the grey/black wire.

 

[richardumberger]

That "should" work or at least give you a speedo. I'm running a 98 4406 case with a vss on the output and I used the signal from it to feed the grey/black wire.

Boomin. So will i need to still grab the piece off the explorer? That signal converter? Can you e mail me a picture of what it looks like and how i should wire it in. Trans shifts now and speedo works but it is still very sluggish. I would appreciate it. My email is buddyumberger@gmail.com

 

[richardumberger]

Is there a way to have a tune wrote around that since i have vss hooked up now with transfer case

 

[richardumberger]

Ok couldn't find a 2.5l to rob gem from so i grabbed a little black module from an expo. That i think is the thing boomin was talking about grabbing but i don't know where to tie it in. Wiring is different colors then anything else i see unless im missing something

 

[richardumberger]

I tried this all but using expo abs module. I did use the transducer module from inside frame rail. I found this on ranger power sports

I: remove the ABS module from the ranger, its connector is connector C135.

II: mount the explorer “G-Force Transducer” to the ranger. It mounts on the drivers side frame rail directly next to the fuel pump. Its connector is connector C312.

III: there are three wires coming from the “G-Force Transducer”, an OG/BK wire circuit # 886, a YE wire circuit # 887, and an OG/WH wire circuit # 836. These three wires need to be extended all the way to the ABS connector C135.

IV: connect the OG/BK wire circuit # 886, to pin [URL=http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 4[/URL] on C135. This pin on the connector will be empty.

V: connect the YE wire, circuit # 887 to pin # 13 on C135. you will have to disconnect the wire that is currently there, it is the brake pressure switch and will no longer be needed.

VI: connect the OG/WH wire, circuit # 836 to pin #1 on connector C135. This pin on the connector will be empty.

VII: pin # 19 on connector C135 is the VSS signal output, circuit # C679. Connect a GY/BK wire to pin # 19 on connector C135 and splice it into pin # 32 on connector C146 (the grey firewall connector). This will tie the new conditioned VSS signal into all the other systems.

VIII: plug the explorer 4WABS module into connector C135 and bolt the module onto the ABS system.#

 

[richardumberger]

Hey guys I'm still fighting the issue with my vss. Please help!!! I've tried this.

I tried this all but using expo abs module. I did use the transducer module from inside frame rail. I found this on ranger power sports

I: remove the ABS module from the ranger, its connector is connector C135.

II: mount the explorer “G-Force Transducer” to the ranger. It mounts on the drivers side framerail directly next to the fuel pump. Its connectoris connector C312.

III: there are three wires coming from the “G-Force Transducer”, an OG/BK wire circuit # 886, a YE wire circuit # 887, and an OG/WH wire circuit# 836. These three wires need to be extended all the way to the ABS connector C135.

IV: connect the OG/BK wire circuit # 886, to pin #1 4 on C135. This pin on the connector will be empty.

V: connect the YE wire, circuit # 887 to pin # 13 on C135. you will have to disconnect the wirethat is currently there, it is the brake pressure switch and will no longer be needed.

VI: connect the OG/WH wire, circuit # 836 to pin #1 on connector C135. This pin on the connectorwill be empty.

VII: pin # 19 on connector C135 is the VSS signal output, circuit # C679. Connect a GY/BK wire to pin # 19 on connector C135 and splice it into pin # 32 on connector C146 (the grey firewall connector). This will tie the new conditioned VSS signal into all the other systems.

VIII: plug the explorer 4WABS module into connector C135 and bolt the module onto the ABS system.#


In my 98 evtm it says yellow circuit 887 should go to pin 6 on 4wabs, orange/black 886 goes to pin 7, and black/grey circuit 679 goes to pin 10 not the above pins. Can anyone tell me which one I should wire?