15k Oil Analysis Results

[aldive]

I sent in my oil sample from the 15k miles interval. I am using Amsoil Series 2000 0W30 oil and Amsoil filters. The filter has been changed at 7.5k and 15k with a new quart of oil added each sample period.

The results are as follows:

>>RESULTS OF TEST PERFORMED INDICATE NO CORRECTIVE ACTION REQUIRED<<
>>OIL IS SUITABLE FOR CONTINUED USE
CHANGE FULL FLOW FILTER - IF NOT DONE WHEN SAMPLED
TOP OFF SYSTEM
RESAMPLE AT NEXT REGULAR INTERVAL<<

This should further debunk the myth if the 3k-mile oil change. At the 3-5k interval, one is simply wasting their money ( if they are using this great oil )..

 

[Rhett]

Did the analysis results give the amounts of particulate matter found in the oil, or was it just a statement saying you can continue to use the oil?

 

[aldive]

They provided a complete list of the data.

 

[tbomb]

interesting results, but gerald did something like this a long time ago, and its one of those things that isnt gonna change people. i, for one, will continue to "waste my money."

 

[Tarron]

3,000 miles

I get my oil changes for free as long as I own my X so no money being wasted here either.

 

[rocklaurence]

I use the WalMart gallon and 1 QT syn every 4K. I have 125K on it and never had a problem. Studies have shown that regular oil changes around 6-8K meets the needs of the engine.

 

[aldive]

Originally posted by rocklaurence
Studies have shown that regular oil changes around 6-8K meets the needs of the engine.

Care to elaborate?

 

[RangerX]

Pardon my naivete, but is Amsoil Series 2000 synthetic or dino?

 

[aldive]

Its full synthetic; taker a look at their site on this oil at Dead Link Removed

 

[Tarron]

Does it work for you?

I tried but all I get is this.....

The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

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Please try the following:

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Open the www.amsoil.com home page, and then look for links to the information you want.
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HTTP 404 - File not found
Internet Explorer

 

[aldive]

Doesn't work for me either... try this http://intershop.amsoil.com/cgi-bin/Amsoil.storefront/3de2d16f03d8c342271bd1f0e3f0073d/Catalog/1108

 

[rgiles]

aldive, I'm interested in the details of the report if you can post them here I can compare against my 3000 mile dino oil. That could make for some interesting comparisons.

 

[aldive]

6735 SOUTH LOCKWOOD RIDGE RD
SARASOTA, FL 34231
(941)925-7835 Customer: 303325 Make: FORD Oil Brand: AMSOIL CTC Lab:
18419 EUCLID AVENUE
CLEVELAND, OH 44112-1016
(800)726-5400, FAX (216)383-9633
Unit No: 1 Model: EXPLORER Oil Type: S2000 SYN ENG
Description: ENGINE Grade: 30

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SPECTROCHEMICAL ANALYSIS (ppm)

Lab No
Condition Date
Taken
Tested Time
on Oil
on Unit Fe Cr Pb Cu Sn Al Ni Ag Si B Na Mg Ca Ba P Zn Mo Ti V K
305645
Normal 10/29/2002
11/11/2002 7046
72046 49 2 31 34 0 16 0 0 24 8 8 539 2850 0 1286 1581 7 0 0 0
297036
Normal 08/05/2002
08/05/2002 7500
65000 18 2 10 12 3 10 3 0 10 31 4 359 3187 0 1219 1588 5 0 0
PHYSICAL PROPERTIES ADDITIONAL TESTS
Lab No Vis40C Vis100C Fuel Water Solids Glycol
305645 N/A 13.64 <1 0 0.1 NEG
297036 NA 14.4 <1.0 0.05 NA NEG
LabNo TBN OXID NITR TAN
305645 4.43 5.0 13.0
297036 6.1 2.2 24.3 NA

ANALYSIS RECOMMENDATIONS
305645 RESULTS OF TEST PERFORMED INDICATE NO CORRECTIVE ACTION REQUIRED.

297036 VISCOSITY IS OUT OF INDICATED GRADE
OIL IS SUITABLE FOR CONTINUED USE
CHANGE FULL FLOW FILTER - IF NOT DONE WHEN SAMPLED
TOP OFF SYSTEM
RESAMPLE AT NEXT REGULAR INTERVAL

 

[DeagleDave]

3000 mile drain interval is not a waste of money, it's a waste of your engine. synthetic oils bond more readily to your engine parts, the resist breakdown better, and they don't make your engine work as hard. i have a friend (mechanic) here in Orlando that has over 1,000,000 miles on an early 70's vintage C10 pickup truck. synthetic is a revolutionary product as far as i'm concerned and the results speak for themselves.

 

[rgiles]

Here's my results:

Vehicle '91 Ford Explorer
Miles 3147
Oil 10w30 Quaker State
Engine 4.0L V6
Driving Conditions - Short Trips 10 miles or less

Measured Average
Aluminum 3 4
Chromium 1 1
Iron 21 19
Copper 7 6
Lead 3 5
Tin 0 3
Molybdenum 40 31
Nickle 2 0
Manganese 0 0
Silver 0 0
Titanium 0 0
Potassium 0 0
Boron 0 26
Silicon 5 10
Sodium 9 35
Calcium 1474 1316
Magnesium 90 602
Phosphorous 708 749
Zinc 807 885
Barium 0 1

Measured Should be
Viscosity 58.7 59-67 58.7 59-67
Flashpoint 370 >375 370 >375
Fuel % 0.3 <2.0 0.3 <2.0
Antifreeze 0 0 0 0
Water 0 <0.05 0 <0.05
Insolubles 0.4 <0.8 0.4 <0.8

 

[DeagleDave]

ummm i think you did something wrong....

 

[rgiles]

aldive, I think it may need to be reformated to make any sense of it.

BTW, the lab told me I could continue using mine until 5000 miles.

 

[aldive]

Originally posted by rgiles
I think it may need to be reformated to make any sense of it

Take a look at the report in this format at http://www.fdu.com/oilanalysis.htm

 

[Adam Foote]

at the moment i do alot of oilchange$ $o everyone plea$e keep doing thi$ at 3000 Mile$

 

[rgiles]

Thanks for sharing, that's much better to read

I don't know how significant it is, but your wear metals are accumulating and are usually higher than mine. Just taking one of the measurements for comparison, the the Iron (Fe) is 21 on mine, and yours is 49 up from 18 from your previous sample. That makes sense since mine has much fewer miles on the oil but I wonder if they can cause any harm by recirculating. These must be too small for the oil filter to get so maybe they arnen't a problem?

Maybe they could give you some analysis on the wear metals as to how they are compared to averages.