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1998+ ranger front axle into 1995-6 Explorer

M.D. Farragher

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Western Washington
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Mukilteo, WA
Year, Model & Trim Level
1995 Explorer XLT
Working on my 1995 Explorer XLT overland build and have moved in many directions with the front axle only to be stymied at almost every turn. You all know this very well already. The direction I am heading in now is a Torsen diff in a 98 Ranger front axle housing. This to simplify the whole 4x4 configuration. It will be coupled with a manual shift on the 4405, and manual locking hubs on ranger hubs. My questions:

What must I do with the GEM if I no longer need the switch on the dash, the vacuum disconnect, or the electromagnetic clutch?
What to do with the electromagnetic clutch?
More importantly, will disconnecting the electromagnetic clutch lock the front axle in fully when in 4H or 4L?
Will I run into trouble running in true 4x4 high on say a snowy highway?
What to do with the Vacuum servo?
What to do with the solenoids for the front disconnect?

I know this is an old vehicle, but still viable and still strong, and cheap.

Thanks in advance.
 



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A traction device in your front axle, yes you will slip all over, the truck will not want to go straight in snow or otherwise as long as you have it in 4x4
Trying to put the power vacuum ranger hub system in the explorer but bypassing the vacuum hubs and running the cheapo 98-99 Ranger manual hubs may sound like a good idea on paper, but in my opinion it is not.

Yes you will run into issues running 4x4 hi on a snowy highway with a front traction device, the best front diff for this situation would be a open front diff, not locked or limited slip

The 98-99 hubs available aftermarket are cheap and weak and will not hold up well on a 4500#+ explorer. With a traction device in the front diff you will need some sort of hub so you can send the power to one wheel.....but then this defeats the purpose of a traction device because its job is to send power to both wheels.


To delete control trac consider running either a manual shift 1354 t case
or a 1354 e shift and wire in the motorolla 4x4 control module from a 02+ Ranger
This way your dash switch and wiring harness can stay in place. You can bypass your GEM module and the truck will be fine with it.

Vacuum servo and solenoids, all vacuum lines can all be removed from the ranger PVH axle


I often delete:
98-99 Ranger power vacuum hubs
95-96 explorer CAD
96-01 Explorer Control Trac

So this thread is right up my alley
 






410 thanks for your response. I may not be following everything you said perfectly by I do appreciate the response and all the data, and I am glad to be in the same alley as you. I started to rethink what I said about being able to go down the highway in 4H in the snow, and wanted to clarify. I am building this not as a daily driver, but as a trail/camping/overlanding rig, so performance off road is most important. What I set out to do initially was to build a rig that would enhance the capability of the explorer off road, without detracting from its on road adverse condition capability. I quickly realized that would be impossible, but just exactly how impossible has taken a little bit of time, and digging. It seems to be more of an either or situation.

Now on to the parts. I currently have a 1998 Ranger front axle housing, and a freshly rebuilt electric shift 1354.

Ranger front axle housing - I intended to use this with the Torsen LS, and without the vacuum hubs.(did think I would use the aftermarket manual hubs) Obviously I would have to use Ranger hubs with the aftermarket kit to get there. Truck has the 4" super lift knuckles on it. Open to not going there if I can see a good way around the no full disconnect issue.

1354 electric shift t-case - I was going to use this with a manual shift kit from Behemoth, then I read something that made me think this wasn't the greatest idea, and Behemoth said their manual shift kit would work on the 4405 as well. My 4405 is also freshly rebuilt.

My stock front axle housing needs to be rebuilt no matter what I do, so if I use it or the Ranger front axle housing I have to go through an axle housing. I now have all the parts.

Rear end was gone through about 10K miles ago and had got a new LS diff at that time, but I have a new elocker for it.

New 4.56 gears for both.

See questions comments below. Cap locks just for differentiation. No emphasis.

A traction device in your front axle, yes you will slip all over, the truck will not want to go straight in snow or otherwise as long as you have it in 4x4
Trying to put the power vacuum ranger hub system in the explorer but bypassing the vacuum hubs and running the cheapo 98-99 Ranger manual hubs may sound like a good idea on paper, but in my opinion it is not.

SO FROM READING DOWN BELOW, YOU RECOMMEND USING THE RANGER FRONT AXLES TO GET RID OF THE CAD. I'M GOOD WITH THIS. WHAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IS SPINNING ALL THAT RUNNING GEAR ALL THE TIME BECAUSE IT HAS NO DISCONNECT.

Yes you will run into issues running 4x4 hi on a snowy highway with a front traction device, the best front diff for this situation would be a open front diff, not locked or limited slip

The 98-99 hubs available aftermarket are cheap and weak and will not hold up well on a 4500#+ explorer. With a traction device in the front diff you will need some sort of hub so you can send the power to one wheel.....but then this defeats the purpose of a traction device because its job is to send power to both wheels.

I HAVE DECIDED NOT TO WORRY ABOUT THIS, AND CONCENTRATE ON OFF ROAD CAPABILITY.


To delete control trac consider running either a manual shift 1354 t case
or a 1354 e shift and wire in the motorolla 4x4 control module from a 02+ Ranger This way your dash switch and wiring harness can stay in place. You can bypass your GEM module and the truck will be fine with it. WHERE WOULD ONE FIND THE DETAILS ABOUT THIS WIRING?

WHAT IS THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 4405 AND THE 1354 E-SHIFT? THE 1354 HAS HAS THE ELECTROMAGNETIC CLUTCH, AND BROWN WIRE LIKE THE 4405. IS IT TOUGHER?

Vacuum servo and solenoids, all vacuum lines can all be removed from the ranger PVH axle

FUNNY THE AXLE I PICKED UP HAD NO VACUUM ANYTHING ON IT. ON THAT ASSEMBLY IS THE VACUUM STUFF ALL AT THE HUB?


I often delete:
98-99 Ranger power vacuum hubs WHAT HUBS DO YOU USE THEN?
95-96 explorer CAD I'M WITH YOU.
96-01 Explorer Control Trac AGREED, AND THAT IS THE DIRECTION I AM HEADING.

So this thread is right up my alley
 






okay here we go

Ranger front diff and Explorer front diff = same thing.
The dana 35 SLA front center section or diff is the same 97-01 Explorer and 98-11 ranger
So you do not HAVE to use the diff from the Ranger you can rebuild whichever one you want.

The ranger vacuum hubs would not work with the super lift knuckles as I am sure you know. But the ranger wheel bearings, cv axles, may work on the superlift knuckles with the aftermarket "rugged ridge" or "traildisaster" hubs.
If you run a limited slip or locker in the front end then you will NEED some sort of hubs, otherwise it will not be very streetable (and down right dangerous!)

Unfortunately nobody makes a selectable locker for the Dana 35 SLA so you are stuck with either open diff, torsen like anti slip, or a full blown locker
Only the open diff will be streetable, especially in the snow, UNLESS you can get those Ranger hubs to work or install a 95-96 Explorer front diff with the CAD (center axle disconnect)

SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just went down this road a few month back when we wanted an ARB or OX locker for the 07 Ranger I am building, in all my years It never dawned on me there were no selectable lockers avail for this diff! It is the two piece style pass axle shaft that makes it tricky to fit a locker in there, something about impossible to fit without some serious machining inside the diff. I did read about one or two people actually getting a dana 35 ARB to work in there, but nothing ever came of that discussion.
We have had in depth discussions on this forum about this recently. Looking at possibly installing the entire SLA suspension from a IFS F150, those use a 8.8 diff in the front and you can get an ARB, OX, etc

I am not a fan of the 98-99 ranger manual hubs, not at all. After installing a couple of sets and holding them in my hands I was not impressed. One set lasted about 3 months before they failed daily driving in the snow, the next set did similar. For the cost, I cannot like them. That ranger is now running explorer knuckles no more PVH no more manual hubs
I fear with a locker and large tires those aftermarket hubs do not stand a chance!!

The bahemoth shifter can take a while to arrive, I have heard horror stories about this device, taking over a year to get your hands on one? If it ever comes....... Consider wiring up the motorolla box....then your stock dash switch will run that 1354e like it was stock.
 






No selectable locker for the Dana 35 IFS SLA - Got that. Am on the list for a Torsen. LS under torque. Open coasting.

I may have misspoken. I understand the diffs are the same. it's the axle housings I was talking about.

The vehicle has a CAD already, but thought it would be weaker than the housing from a 98 Ranger. The ranger is indeed simpler, but the disconnect would be from the aftermarket hubs.

If the only choices for a disconnect are teh CAD and the cheesy manual hubs, maybe the CAD is the better approach.?

Can you run the CAD with the the Eclutch?

The Super lift knuckles are for a 98 Ranger, and Super lift assured me all the Ranger wheel hubs, half shafts etc. bolts to them. Haven't tried yet, but the Explorer stuff sure does.

What is the difference between the 4405 and the 1354?

is there a write up on wiring the motorola module in?
 






I would rather have the CAD then the Ranger PVH system gone manual hubs
The CAD system is MUCH stronger
can easily be converted to work with a cable or vacuum actuated system on a switch

I would run the torsen with the CAD and forget the ranger stuff

the 1354 has not clutch inside, the control trac part of the case is the first part to fail. The 1354 case without control trac is basically bomb proof unless you run them dry they are STOUT

I do have some info about wiring up the motorolla box let me do a little searching
 






here's one discussion


I have others need to do some digging
I also have some wiring diagrams I can send via PM
 






here's one discussion


I have others need to do some digging
I also have some wiring diagrams I can send via PM
410,

Were you able to find the diagrams?
 






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