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2001 Explorer, 8.8 axle rebuild

cdsl227

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I was going to post this in my SAS buildup thread, but figured a separate thread may be of use to others.

I had 4.56 gears and an ARB installed by a shop because it was a bit too cold to deal with it since this thing doesn't fit into anybody's garage.

Long story short- the rear broke up and I'm in the process of rebuilding it.

On to the pics-

First the carnage:

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Now onto the rebuild, and this is going to take me a coupla days since I'm doing it in a makeshift tarp garage...in da freeezzin cold!

The tool to pull the axle tube bearings...
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The size needed for the Ford 8.8, since you can buy one and not the set, it screws on to a slaphammer.
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Bearings and seals removed:
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Cleaned tube, I had to run it through a couple of times with new rags after spraying the hell out of it with Carb and Choke cleaner to get all the metal particles out of it. Once I was happy with how clean it was I doused a couple of rags with gear oil and ran those through the tubes to pull any remaining particles (clean oiled rag each time), since the gear oil is higher viscosity than the cleaner was I switched rags so each rag pulled whatever was left behind, when it was completely cleared I started setting up for measurements.

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The pinion depth tool, about $143 US from Tavia Performance Tools

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Attach the tool to one of the bearing cap bolt holes:

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This is done to check what the "offset" (sometimes there is, sometimes there isn't) from center of the carrier is. You have to measure the race for outside diameter and then do the math to determine (if there is an) offset. If the carrier bearing bore is not exactly halfed then there is an offset, whether it needs to be added or subtraced is determined by whether the "offset" is greater than or less than half of the race diameter. The addition or subtraction takes place when you take an actual pinion depth measurement.

The tool is run across the deepest point of the bore to obtain measurements...run it back and forth a few times to find the deepest point.

The measurement for outside diameter that I came up with for the race is 3.062 so- 3.062/2=1.531 (I'll double/triple check it tomorrow) which puts you at the exact center of the carrier bearings. That's the point the pinion depth is measured from. I'll determine the offset tomorrow.

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That's it so far, more tomorrow.
 



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How did you break them?
 






Premier said:
How did you break them?

There's 2 ways of breaking them in.

As per the break-in procedure that comes with the gearset.

I drove a few miles then let the axle cool for about an hour, then drove again and let it cool...I took it easy on that axle for about 500 miles, then started roughing it up just a little. I was going to change the gear oil at about 1000 miles, plus give it a visual, but I only made it to 1000.

The other method is to jack up and support the axle on stands and let it idle in gear for about 20 minutes and let it cool. Then drive it "easy" for a while.

They had no preload on the carrier bearings at all- the ARB dropped out in my hands when I pulled the caps off and there was a little side-to-side movement. Best I can figure is that the ARB (differential) got slammed back and forth. No preload causes the backlash to open up too wide and hence- you lose teeth.

I kinda knew I should have done it myself, but I didn't want to brave the cold, now I'm re-doing it and it's even colder.

Want something done right- do it yourself!

There are no truly reliable shops for this kind of stuff in NYC, they're simply parts-swappers...much like the Ford service technicians out here. :D

All you guys that live in the mid-west, out west and down south got it easy! There's no pride in what you do up here.
 






Premier said:
How did you break them?

Duh, I just read this again...

I thought you meant break them in.

They just broke. Coming over the bridge, all was right with the world- then I let go of the gas pedal and clack, clack clack...all she wrote. :) :(
 






cdsl227 said:
Want something done right- do it yourself!

You said it.

Subscribing for info!
 






Got 200 miles on the axle so far. I did get some pics and will post them later tonight, not as detailed as I would have liked, but since I was working in a "tarp" garage and that massive snowfall was coming I had to do the work more than document it.

The damn tarp was coming down around me from the weight of the snow- I managed to just get finished in time to get it out of the yard.

I will strip it down and re-do the gears in the spring just for my own personal satisfaction.

I got the pinion depth right, but i would have liked more time to triple check everything...I prefer perfection over acceptable when it comes to stuff like this.

pics tonight...
 






Congrats. I wonder if they even changed the two preload spacers. I have rebuilt a few 8.8s, the differential, and only the last one didn't need different spacers.

What gear lash did you use, .09-.12? Good job.
DonW
 






Pulling an axle without the right tool is a huge task. What is the part number for that axle bearing puller kit?
Don
 






CDW6212R said:
Pulling an axle without the right tool is a huge task. What is the part number for that axle bearing puller kit?
Don

The axle tube bearing puller was a cheapo brand, not too expensive and decent quality, I've used their stuff before with good results... The part number will be different depending on the company, this stuff is Astro Pneumatic?? I think...I'll post it when I get home, but there's a picture of the size for the 8.8.

The pain was pulling the pinion bearing because it was the next size splitter from what I had...another tool added to the stash a huge frickin splitter!
 






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