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The transmission shop should be done with the rebuild any day. Here's hoping the rebuild lasts. Has anyone that's had one of these tranny's rebuilt had any further issues? The guy at the transmission shop said he'd give a 1-year warranty, but he did say that honestly the transmission should be as good as new (if not stronger, he said).

Most tranny shops just give a 1 year, 12,000 mile standard warranty with their tranny rebuilds, but I do know of one shop in my area that offers a 2 year warranty and AAMCO Transmissions offers 3 year warranties and an optional lifetime warranty on theirs. My tranny was rebuilt by "Continental Transmissions (1 year warranty)" 2 years ago and is still working good, but I only put 10+ k miles on it in that time. I plan on changing the pan fluid and filter in the spring of 2014(3 year mark) when I've put around 15k in miles on this tranny rebuild just as a preventive maintenance thing to keep this rebuild running good with fresh fluid and a new filter. Good luck with the rebuilt tranny.
 



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Thanks for the info. Just curious...why/how does a "rebuilt" transmission not last as long as a new one? Is part of "rebuilding" not replacing all the internals anyway?
 






Thanks for the info. Just curious...why/how does a "rebuilt" transmission not last as long as a new one? Is part of "rebuilding" not replacing all the internals anyway?

When you buy a "rebuilt transmission", you are getting a used, but cleaned out tranny case, with some internal parts that are installed new and some of the parts they re-use are "used" parts that still function even though they may have high mileage on them. You don't get completely new, internal tranny parts with a "rebuilt transmission". They just replace the parts that need replacing. They re-use older parts that still work to increase their profit margin on the rebuilt tranny sale. The less they spend on new parts, the more money they make and vice versa. With a "remanufactured transmission", you get all new internal parts that are generally made from higher quality, aftermarket parts rather than using Ford OE parts like the ones that failed in your tranny. A remanufactured tranny is considered the best buy and the better overall tranny because of the way they are built with all new parts, but they cost a bit more money($600-$800). Ask the tranny shop who is rebuilding your tranny to list all the new parts that are being installed into your tranny on your customer receipt and ask if they are giving you a new torque converter as well. You should get a new torque converter with a rebuilt tranny, I did with mine. BTW, rebuilt trannys can last a long time, if it was rebuilt correctly. Hope this helps.
 






Anyone here have any experience with Jasper Transmissions for Explorers? Just wondering how they hold up
 






My Factory Transmission on our 2004 Explorer XLS went bad at 4.5 years and 74,000 miles. We had it rebuilt for parts and labor $3,000. (I presume I was taken but I do live in a high cost area and not too good at haggling.) It came with a two year warranty. This winter it started acting up again, 4 years, 50,000 more miles (not the worst return, but I think having to replace transmissions doesn't make sense.) I had it diagnosed this morning. Same deal rebuild part $2,200 (new tranny from Ford $2,600) plus $700 in labor. Its now a third car for us and I'm not paying for this.

What is the market for 2004 Explorer XLS with 124K miles, needing a new transmission? On Cars.com working models sell between $5,000 and $7,000. So to me that sounds like $3,000 obo and if I get more than $2,000 then I'm out even.
 






My Factory Transmission on our 2004 Explorer XLS went bad at 4.5 years and 74,000 miles. We had it rebuilt for parts and labor $3,000. (I presume I was taken but I do live in a high cost area and not too good at haggling.) It came with a two year warranty. This winter it started acting up again, 4 years, 50,000 more miles (not the worst return, but I think having to replace transmissions doesn't make sense.) I had it diagnosed this morning. Same deal rebuild part $2,200 (new tranny from Ford $2,600) plus $700 in labor. Its now a third car for us and I'm not paying for this.

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Transmissions need regular maintenance just like engines do, which includes changing the tranny fluid and filter at no more than 30k intervals. This will help prolong the life of the transmission. Yes, you paid too much for the tranny, especially if you bought it from Ford. You should be able to get a rebuilt tranny for approx $1600-$2300 for your Explorer from a reputable tranny shop.
 






Well I picked it up this morning, and so far so good I suppose. :/

All in all, the cost was $1857, and that included a new torque converter. I asked the main man at the shop, and he said I should have the fluid and filter changed every 30k miles, and he said he charges around $150 to do that.

I can buy that. I mean, it only sounds reasonable that a $150 in preventive maintenance could make the transmission last a lot longer. Here's hoping that's the case. :/

On another note, does anyone know how to get a dealer review deleted/modified on cars.com? The dealer finally agreed to help me out by waiving some of the money I still owe them if I could remove the negative review I posted of them on cars.com, which I honestly think is quite great of them, considering I know legally they don't have to do anything.
 






i wouldn't remove the review until they paid you back in full. every dealership in my area will offer a 30 day warranty on their used vehicle. 14 days puts you inside that, even though they may not have the same warranty it is about making customers happy. especially when the tranny craps the bed 2 weeks later.
 






Agreed. I wouldn't touch it. You could add a post to update on what they've done so far if it makes you feel better. Regardless, I wouldn't remove that original post.
 






Well turns out I can't remove the review, anyway, per cars.com themselves. They said I could submit a new one with the up-to-date situation. I'll do that. ;)
 






I would just like to chime in. I am in almost the same situation. Bought a nice 2002 explorer from a dealer with 100k for 8999 otd. This was in 2010. 2 long trips and a month later at 108k the trans stated clunking 1st to second, up and down shifting. took it to trans shop for 1800 dollar rebuild. Haggled a 2 year warranty somehow thank god because the trans went out again at 112000 the very next summer. Same exact issue as first time. Barely 5k miles driven. Took it back to the trans shop and of course the guy was pissed to have to work on it again because it was passed the normal warranty (of one year) by a month and he must have forgotten I made him sign and initial the 2 year warranty on my paperwork. Truck was gone another week with another COMPLETE REBUILD. Ran great up until a month or 2 ago and now she's clunking again! Has 123000. Got another lousy 10k out of the rebuild. after the research and everything I have come to the conclusion that this truck is NOT BUILT FOR A V8 motor. The motor is just too much for the rest of the truck. The 4.6 in this truck is an amazing, powerful beast. The rest of the car can't handle the power and torque. I've had 2 older explorers with high miles (98 and 97) both v6,s and neither of them had trans issues like this. My v8 is also experiencing whining from the rear end, which turns out, can't handle the power of the motor either. In the last 3 years I have put literally 6 thousand dollars into this truck and barely got 25 thousand miles to show for it. I've had to do all 4 of the shocks, struts, tie rods ball joints, oil pump, alternator, thermostat, fuel pump, o2 sensors, all kinds of various lighting and electrical interior problems. Plus the trans twice. So now that I've told you how horrible it's been I can tell you something else. It's not the trucks fault. It's poor design. It's consumerism. I think my exact truck in a sohc v6 package would be amazing. The 25k miles I have put on her, when running well, have been amazing. Camping trips, towing, cross country trips. She rides on a cloud with tons of power. Such a smooth running motor, never any real issues. the motor is amazing, as well as the overall quality of the truck with high miles. Just not together.

I am torn on this truck. I love hate it every day. I'm vested 14k in it and its worth 4. I love driving it even with the clunky trans because it just rides so nice with all the new things I've done to it. But no matter what I do it was a really bad investment. If I did it over again, I would have waited out a v6. I'm stuck with this money pit, but its my money pit and I kinda love it.

Oh yeah the driver power window broke last week, pulled it apart and it was a tiny plastic clip that broke, that you cannot buy, without buying the entire motor mechanism (motor works perfect was replaced around 100k from first break) for 90 bucks. Fixing that next week.

And the dash computer consistently tells me I'm getting 11 mpg. Which is atrocious. I work 5 miles from home, been costing me about 60 bucks a week to go to work......

Sorry not trying to jack your thread, just letting you know your not alone.

Think I'm going to try the above mentioned short term trans fix......

Also if the trans went out 14 days after you bought it, chances are the dealer, or last seller of your truck to the dealer probably put sawdust in the trans fluid. Works for about a month makes the trans perfect. The trans doesnt just stop working over night like you say, it slowly clunks away until it goes out. mine has been slipping for 2 months and probably 2 thousand miles and runs and drives through all the gears, albeit clunky. My mechanic friend told me this trick, which I didn't know, and makes me weary of buying used cars from anyone anymore. They say it also removes knocking from engines if you add it to the motor oil.....not good. A least I know what I got!
 






Btw. We bought this car as a family trip car, that's why the mileage was weird in my description. Became my daily driver about 6 months ago.
 






after the research and everything I have come to the conclusion that this truck is NOT BUILT FOR A V8 motor. The motor is just too much for the rest of the truck.

It sounds more like you got a lemon, and a poor rebuild. I have an 05 with a V8 and 145K on it. I tow a camper, 4 wheel it, and it's driven on the street every day. I have only done service on this truck and have not replaced anything but the brakes, battery, and tires.
 






If I did it over again, I would have waited out a v6. I'm stuck with this money pit, but its my money pit and I kinda love it.

And the dash computer consistently tells me I'm getting 11 mpg. Which is atrocious. I work 5 miles from home, been costing me about 60 bucks a week to go to work......



chances are the dealer, or last seller of your truck to the dealer probably put sawdust in the trans fluid. Works for about a month makes the trans perfect. >>>>>>>> They say it also removes knocking from engines if you add it to the motor oil.....not good. A least I know what I got!

I've got the V-6, and it isn't much better. I find it has less power than it should for a 4300 lb vehicle. On the Thruway getting up to highway speed it is okay, but on city streets, it's a dog!
On getting 11mpg, welcome to the club! 2 years ago after I bought my Ex, I had all sorts of shop diagnostic's run on my EX and no problems found, changed all tune-up parts, plugs, wires, fuel filter, fuel injection cleaning, K&N air filter etc, cleaned MAF and Throttle Body etc, and I cannot get better than 10-11 mpg in the city with the V-6. On the Thruway, I get 15-16 mpg.
On the sawdust in the tranny trick, aka "dusting a tranny" with sawdust has been around for decades. I remember people dumping sawdust into a slipping tranny as far back as the 70's. Only problem now is, there are no tranny dipstick tubes to dump the sawdust thru and into a tranny like on older model vehicles.
 






And the dash computer consistently tells me I'm getting 11 mpg. Which is atrocious. I work 5 miles from home, been costing me about 60 bucks a week to go to work......

I wonder if your transmission problems are causing your poor fuel mileage. With my V8 I get 15-16 combined city/highway and it is bone stock.

BTW gas must be really pricey where you live.
 






It sounds more like you got a lemon, and a poor rebuild. I have an 05 with a V8 and 145K on it. I tow a camper, 4 wheel it, and it's driven on the street every day. I have only done service on this truck and have not replaced anything but the brakes, battery, and tires.

you could be right
 






I wonder if your transmission problems are causing your poor fuel mileage. With my V8 I get 15-16 combined city/highway and it is bone stock.

BTW gas must be really pricey where you live.

$4.50 a gallon today for regular. and the trans could be an issue with the mileage. last trip i took it the avg went up to 16. but right back down when i came home.
 






BTW gas must be really pricey where you live.

Gasoline is pricey everywhere! No matter where you live in America, it's double the price of what it realistically should be per gallon.
 






transmission issue?

hello, I have a 03 explorer 4.0 with a possible transmission issue or not. heres the problem,no upshifts in any gear unless I take my foot out of the throttle almost completely, on wot forced downshifts it maxs out at 3000 rpm and loses speed, going up hill works best if light throttle to keep it in higher gears as any downshift is worse. at idle max rpm is about 4200 but driving it is about 3000. no codes set, no flashing trans lights. has anyone had a similar problem?
 



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turned out to be plugged exhaust at downstream converter
 






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