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2004 Mountaineer with a rear end noise.

mountaineerdrive

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To whom it may concern;
I have a 4dr 2004 mountaineer 2x wheel drive. A mechanic stated that he heard a faint rattling noise coming from the rear end of the SUV. He said that it is the first sign that the rear end is going to fail and that I need to be prepared to pay for a expensive fix (1k to 1.6k) or sell before the rear end goes bad. He also said that this is a common issue with explores and mountaineers. Can some one tell me what the issue is in non-mechanic terms?

Thanks much

mountaineerdriver
 



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There could be a few different things he heard.

Let me explain how the axle works real quickly. The power is transmitted into the driveshaft, the driveshaft turns the pinion gear inside the differential. This pinion gear contacts a "ring" gear at a 90* angle to it. The ring gear is mounted on a "carrier" which will spin and transmit the power to the axles that connect to it. Inside the carrier, there is what is called "spider and side" gears that allow the two axles to turn at different rates, allowing you to turn your vehicle either direction. The most common thing to go wrong would be the bearings that the carrier ride on. They are a little on the pricey side, not the actual bearings themselves, but setting up the tolerances between the carrier and its ring gear to the pinion gear. The tolerances are very tight and must be correct. The prices your mechanic quoted sound to be on the high side. Might I suggest finding a driveline shop or perhaps have a transmission shop look at it and give you an estimate when the time comes.

Next probable set of circumstances would be a bad pinion bearing. The bearing would wear, causing an irregular surface for the bearing to ride, which in turn causes faster degradation of the bearing...so on and so forth until it gets to the point that it allows differential lube to leak out of the pinion seal (around the same area as where the rear driveshaft connects to the rear axle assembly). Once the leak starts, the fluid level could drop, thereby starving the pinion bearing of lubrication, and that also speeds failure along. Replacing the pinion bearing is pricey because you just might as well replace all the bearings in the entire rear axle assembly. You also have to set tolerances within the pinion gear (depth, bearing preload..blah blah blah), then you have to redo all the tolerances within the entire differential. (the reason why I say you might as well rebuild the entire axle) If it is a limited slip, might as well replace those pesky clutch packs, side and spider gears, might even need the ring gear.

There is an excellent source right here on this forum that will ship a replacement differential to wherever you want him to. 100% rebuilt and ready to go.
His "screen name" is Ericautopart. Send him a private message if you are interested. It will be cheaper than the price quoted to you by the mechanic.

Check out this thread:
http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274594
 






A mechanic stated that he heard a faint rattling noise coming from the rear end of the SUV. He said that it is the first sign that the rear end is going to fail and that I need to be prepared to pay for a expensive fix (1k to 1.6k) or sell before the rear end goes bad.
mountaineerdriver

OR, the mechanic is blowing smoke up your tail pipe, and wants to make a quick buck. Ask them to show you. A reputable mechanic will show the customer when possible.
 






Very true, Verno. However that generation is well known for rear differential issues.
To the Original Poster:
It won't explode or lock-up on you or cause other damage. Keep on keeping on with it, it will tell you when its time. The noise will become ubearable.
 






Or I can sell you one much cheaper.
 






Or I can sell you one much cheaper.

Psst, read the last paragraph of post #2

There is an excellent source right here on this forum that will ship a replacement differential to wherever you want him to. 100% rebuilt and ready to go.
His "screen name" is Ericautopart. Send him a private message if you are interested. It will be cheaper than the price quoted to you by the mechanic.

Check out this thread:
http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=274594
 






welcome
 


















Hi my POS Mounty, and all other posters. I have an 03 AWD explorer and am having the same symptoms on my front end. I do not have a limited slip ( at least I dont think I do) but those bearings on the pinion and all that good stuff, would that keep my wheels from spinning at different speeds? Like When I go to take turns in parking spaces and sharper turns, my vehicle will studder, and feels like the wheels are slipping and feels like its "walking." I had the cv axles and seals replaced and the mechanic stated that my bearing on the inside of the drivers side differential was pressed out and said that there was something funky going on inside the diff. and it caused the bearing to shift when turning slow sharp turns. Now while driving, haven't drove it since I heard the noses, but the last time I did it was clunking and had really bad vibration on my steering wheel. the parking break was applied and was in neutral on jack stands. Looked under while turning and noticed that my whole carrier housing was moving up and down as it got to the point to where the wheel would not go any further. Also noticed that the inner sleeve on the CV axle was starting to separate. My question is, would it be cheaper for me to buy a carrier housing off of E-bay or some savalge yard, or just have someone rebuild the bearings and what ever else I needed. Any insight would be awesome as I'm stuck with a pretty big car payment and cant drive it, so the cheaper the repair the better.
Thanks!
 






Hi Eric, how much would a rear diff cost for an 04 Mountaineer with the 3:73 gears?

Thank you,
Glenn

Eric hasn't been on for a long time. They used to be a site sponsor but not sure about that now?? You can reach Eric's company here:
Vince Florio
Automotive Parts Unlimited, LLC
1000 Airport Rd. Suite 105
Lakewood, NJ 08701
Toll Free: 800-270-5224
Phone: 732-942-5551
Fax: 732-942-5552
e-mail: vinceautopart@aol.com
website: www.automotivepartsunlimited.com
 






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