2015 TPMS fault help needed

[onestout]

I bought a used set of EX wheels (OEM) and mounted a set of winter tires on it. Prior to mounting the tires I checked the sensors and all the batteries were good and are the same frequency as the ones it had from the factory. I put the winter tires on and I can't get the sensors to work with the EX. I have done the "brake/on/off" sequence until the horn sounded but that is far as it makes it. I can't for the life of me get these sensors to take to the EX. What is my next step? I really don't want to peel the tires back off

 

[peterk9]

On which year Explorer were the wheels originally mounted? If it was a 2016+ model then you have the wrong sensors.

Peter

 

[onestout]

pre 15, they are the exact same wheels as my 15 has which I think is the last year.

 

[peterk9]

There are a few members who said that the sensors will program to the vehicle simply by driving it. It may take some time but they did match to the vehicle. I know when I had the wrong sensors in the wheels I put on my 2017, it took until the next day for the TPMS warning to come on and that was after driving about 25 miles.

Peter

 

[onestout]

It's been about 1k miles, they are not learning. I take the scan tool to each sensor and they are all working and reading the correct pressure, the EX just can't learn them.

 

[KayGee]

Just to clarify, you are putting the vehicle in tpms relearn mode manually and then using a scan tool to train the sensors, but the vehicle isn't acknowledging any of the sensors?

What scan tool are you using for the sensors? Are they OE or AM sensors? How did you confirm the sensors were good and battery status was good?

I've had a few ford vehicles that could be put into tpms relearn manually, and would then accept 1-3 sensors, but would not complete the tpms relearn procedure. For some reason, when I put the vehicle in tpms relearn with forscan or a scan tool, the tpms relearn procedure would complete without issue.

 

[CommandPresence]

I cant remember what years that you do it with, but isn't there also a procedure of letting air out/horn beeps as well? Jogging my memory here...

 

[CommandPresence]

rogramming

NOTE: Enter Training Mode Without Scan Tool

1. NOTE: The horn will sound once and the TPMS indicator will flash if the training mode has been entered successfully. If equipped, the message center will display TRAIN Left Front (LF) TIRE.
   
   With the ignition OFF, press and release the brake pedal.

1. Using the start/stop switch, position the ignition from OFF to RUN 3 times, ending in the RUN position.

1. Press and release the brake pedal.

1. Position the ignition to OFF position.

1. Using the start/stop switch, position the ignition from OFF to RUN 3 times, ending in the RUN position.

Programming

NOTE: TPMS Sensor Training Procedure

1. NOTE: It may take up to 6 seconds to activate a tire pressure sensor. During this time, the special tool must remain in place at the valve stem.
   
   Place the special tool on the Left Front (LF) tire sidewall at the valve stem. Press and release the test button on the special tool. The horn will sound briefly to indicate that the tire pressure sensor has been recognized by the BCM.
   Use Special Service Tool: 204-D081 TPM Activation Tool.

1. Within 2 minutes of the horn sounding, place the special tool on the Right Front (RF) tire sidewall at the valve stem and press and release the test button to train the Right Front (RF) tire pressure sensor.
   Use Special Service Tool: 204-D081 TPM Activation Tool.

1. Repeat Step 1 for the Right Rear (RR) and Left Rear (LR) tires. The procedure is completed after the last tire has been trained. When the training procedure is complete, the message center (if equipped) will display TIRE TRAINING COMPLETE. For vehicles not equipped with a message center, successful completion of the training procedure will be verified by positioning the ignition to OFF without the horn sounding. If the horn sounds twice when the ignition is positioned to OFF, the training procedure was not successful.

1. Using the scan tool, locate the updated TPMS sensor identifiers trained to the BCM and document them on the applicable warranty claim.
   Use Special Service Tool: 204-D081 TPM Activation Tool.

1. This step is required to clear DTC B1182:55, cause the BCM to exit the manufacturing mode and to make sure there are no other concerns with a newly programmed BCM.

1. If the sensors are being trained due to the installation of a new BCM, clear any DTC and carry out the BCM On-Demand Self Test.

 

[CommandPresence]

Check out this post too, might be of help somehow! TPMS Relearning Tool for 2016 Explorer

 

[onestout]

Snap-on scan tool, followed the procedure, horn beeps to start but none of the sensors take.

 

[onestout]

I tried the letting the air out, didn't work, I think that is for 2014 and older. I tried the ford activation tool and snap-ons tpms tool, still nothing seems to be working. The only other thing I can think of is to replace them, not sure why these sensors won't take to my EX.

 

[onestout]

Let's look at this another way, can anyone confirm which TPMS sensor I should have in a 2015? Is it the TPMS12 or TPMS35? I am finding conflicting information.

 

[peterk9]

Let's look at this another way, can anyone confirm which TPMS sensor I should have in a 2015? Is it the TPMS12 or TPMS35? I am finding conflicting information.

The ones installed on my 2011 were TPMS 12 and the ones installed on my 2017 were TPMS 35.
Going from that, I believe you should have the TPMS 12. Tire Pressure Monitor Components for 2015 Ford Explorer | Auto Nation Ford White Bear La

Peter

 

[onestout]

That's what I am thinking....which means I need to peel my tires off to replace them