2017 XLT 2.3 transmission failure | Page 4 | Ford Explorer Forums

  • Register Today It's free!

2017 XLT 2.3 transmission failure

Putting personal feelings/opinions aside, the warranty does not entitle anyone to a "new" anything. Manufacturers will not usually approve an entire replacement of anything major unless it has grenades itself. It's all about what is more cost productive for the manufacturer. IF it is cheaper to rebuild by X% over new, they will rebuild.

Now after a failed repair and MAYBE a 2nd failed repair, then yes I'd be going with a new trans. However, I'd much rather have a lemon law processed then 3, 4 or 5 attempts at disassembling the same trans and rebuilding it over an over.
Putting personal feelings aside I agree with you. Still bugs me 9,000 miles and multiple attempts to fix the trans on a new vehicle. I don't know.
 



Join the Elite Explorers for $20 each year or try it out for $5 a month.

Elite Explorer members see no advertisements, no banner ads, no double underlined links,.
Add an avatar, upload photo attachments, and more!
.











Wow! What a saga!

I have a 2017 XLT 2.3 Ecoboost. At 54,000 miles, I noticed soft, erratic shifts. Also noticed the tach would jump at least twice every quarter mile, approx 100-500 rpm.
Took it in and first response was “Could not duplicate/no codes”. Then, the transmission is adaptive and has to learn your driving….I’m the original owner! So, if it hasn’t learned by now, it’s one dumb truck!
I researched and found a TSB on the issue. Took it back to them to repair. They acknowledged it this time. Since I was going to be out of town, I didn’t ask for a loaner. Got back into town and picked up the car….same issues. It went back to them. Again I was going to be out of town, so no big rush. They told me they ordered several parts and were basically rebuilding the trans. Two weeks later, was told they were putting final touches on the car. When I told them I’d be in to pick it up, they told me nothing had been done and their trans tech had been fired! So, off to a difervent dealer!
New dealer has been much better. But, still hasn’t fixed issue. Thought they had! But, after rebuilding it, I had the truck for a week and the water pump failed, stranding me about an hour away. They were great about replacing it. The mechanic that fixed the water pump (their senior guy) took the car for a test drive and said he didn’t like the way it shifted (I didn’t notice anything). He found a sticking valve. Replaced it and gave it back. The next morning, while cold, I got about 50 yds down the road and thought I dropped a drive shaft, it was such a violent shift!
So, the truck is bak in the shop and he replaced some items on the solenoid side, to no avail.

I read on “Gears” magazine that they’ve found some computer issues that make it look like it’s the trans.

If they don’t get it fixed soon, I’m going to demand a new trans.

At a few thousand away from end of warrant, I don’t think I’ll get much out of a buyback/Lemon Law case.
 






^^Welcome to the Forum. :wave:
If the transmission has been practically rebuilt, perhaps the transmission isn't the issue. In any case, if you plan on keeping the vehicle for a while I would definitely be looking at getting an ESP. Ford ESP at dealer cost to forum members

Peter
 






Update: Vehicle has now been in the shop for a week and a half (this visit…issue has been going on for 3 months now!). Yesterday’s update from dealer was Ford Engineers are now involved and more parts are on the way. They acknowledged this one has them stumped. I sent the “Gears” magazine articles to them. Not sure if they’ll reference them or not.
I’ve got to say, this has shaken my confidence in Ford products! In 55K, I’ve replaced rear rotors and pads, a water pump, hood had to be replaced per recall for perforation, and now the transmission.
 






Final update (I hope): Fixed. They pulled the entire trans and did a tear down after consulting with Ford Engineers. Found several clutch discs with damage. Said they could not determine if it happened during the first issue or with the failed valve. Shifts fine now. It’s good to have it back!
 






Final update (I hope): Fixed. They pulled the entire trans and did a tear down after consulting with Ford Engineers. Found several clutch discs with damage. Said they could not determine if it happened during the first issue or with the failed valve. Shifts fine now. It’s good to have it back!
Thank you for reporting back. :thumbsup:

Peter
 






I just bought a 2017 Explorer XLT 2.3l n June of this year. I have about 9000 miles on it and transmission started making a whirring noise similar to straight cut gear noise. Then vehicle would shift out of gear and then engage all of a sudden, feels like putting it into neutral and slamming it into drive while revved up.
Took it to the dealer and they confirmed that the noise was not normal so they tore own the trans and they said had burnt clutches. They also found the case was seeping oil from a fill plug so they swapped out the case with a new one. Trans was reinstalled and when they test drove it it skipped gears, they removed trans and rebuilt again with more components like sun gear and tested valvebody and reinstalled. Test drove it and shifted fine until it got to a stop where it shifted into 5th gear and was stuck in 5th gear. Ford sent a reprogram for the truck and got that done and was no fix at all. Now they are replacing the valve body but will need to be ordered. The truck has been at the dealer for about 32 days. I was given a rental, A Focus... which is not comparable at all to the Explorer. I spoke to Ford Customer service and they opened a case for buy back after I told them the attempted repairs and time it has been at the dealer.They also said there was an option to upgrade.

Anyone have transmission issues, or have gone thru a buy backprogram ?
Sorry to hear about your problems. wow 9000 miles and already failed transmission!? I hope you had warranty.
I owned a 2017 XLT with the 2.3L as well, similar problems, purchased it new back in 2016. Mine had 65,000 (just past warranty) I actually had started to feel gear slipping before that at 55000, right after the recall for transmission reflash. Fast forward to 2022 and I took it in for service after and reported the slipping on 3rd and 5th gear (feels like a clutch is held and them bump, gear shift). I took it to the ford dealership local to me and they reported that they think I have a bad solenoid; obviously past 60000 they didn't cover this through the new car warranty so I reached out to ford; they provided some monetary assistance to help pay for replacing the diagnosis for bad solenoid valve body.
$900 out of my pocket later, the car shifts better but I still feel the slipping..also I dig through my mail and found this:
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/MC-10181988-0001.pdf (keep this handy and ask your dealership about it)
I took it back to reassess the problem (asking for repair warranty now) and to see if this service program applied. They denied me on both,
they said their master tech recommends a full tear down ($3000 of labor) to really see what's wrong, then Ford can reassess and see how much they can help. They obviously didn't refund me for the parts/labor for the solenoid valve body work.
Without commitment from either Ford, or the dealership on covering the cost of the tear down, after pushing and pushing the dealer and Ford for commitment I decided to sell the vehicle. I asked Ford for the buyback program and they declined me.
At this point the car drove well, it had a minor hesitation on shifting that was noticed slightly. I sold this vehicle back to a ford dealership since I was quoted $9000 for a replacement transmission (which the service advisor recommended instead of a tear down and fix).
Funny enough while my car was still being diagnosed (2nd time) They lent me a 2018 explorer with the 3.5V6; it had 50000 miles and it had the same problems with shifting (hard shifting, gear shifting delay, slipping).
Although we loved this car and it performed well and was a great vehicle during most of its time with me and my family, I'd never end up buying another Ford their reputation for reliability is terrible.
transmissions and bad engines are the first things that you get when you google these vehicles, even their 2021's and 2022's have terrible transmission problems right off the lot (the 10spd) I was lucky to be able to get rid of my problem and get some cash back.
Depending on your state, be aware of the lemon law, technically you're taking it in to get fixed a second time with the same problem.
I think most states its 3 strikes on attempt to fix it, if they can't I advice to ask for lemon law return or get an attorney to help you with that.
If I was you, I'd try to get rid of the car. Even if they put in a new transmission, its only a matter of time, the transmission will fail.

I decided to invest in a Toyota with known reliability, most Toyota's nowadays are built in North America anyway so it satisfied my need to buy something American made.
 






So I am a new member here. The only reason I joined the forum is that i have experienced a total transmission failure on my 2017 2.3 Eco Boost Explorer with only 36,500 miles on it. So yes it's out of warranty, going to cost @ $5800 for a rebuilt tranny with warranty. I just wanted to see if this was a common problem and if there might be any pending class action lawsuits against Ford for this transmission and it's issues?
 






Diagnosed by who, the dealer? I'd get a second opinion.
 






So I am a new member here. The only reason I joined the forum is that i have experienced a total transmission failure on my 2017 2.3 Eco Boost Explorer with only 36,500 miles on it. So yes it's out of warranty, going to cost @ $5800 for a rebuilt tranny with warranty. I just wanted to see if this was a common problem and if there might be any pending class action lawsuits against Ford for this transmission and it's issues?
Welcome to the Forum.:wave:
Is it AWD or FWD?
Not being that familiar with it, I don't know if the correct term is Transmission or Transaxle. Even after looking through the Internet, I'm still not sure.

Peter
 






Featured Content

Back
Top