5.0 swap transmission help

[gbell]

I know that tthere is already a ton of info available on a 5.0 swap into a first gen explorer, but one piece of information I haven't been able to find is regarding a manual 5 speed tranny. My explorer is a 5 speed, if I wanted to put in a 5.0 what would my options be. I think I would like to still have a manual.

 

[RFR2212]

Um I think an SM465? (old with a sweet granny gear) could be wrong on the name or a WC T-5 from a mustang...

I'm sure there are a few others

 

[V8BoatBuilder]

The manual transmission/4wd is a tricky game.

The most popular is the WC T5, from a mustang. You will need to convert the mustang's cable operated clutch to hydraulic, as well as purchase a new output shaft and 4wd tailsgaft housing. Pros: they shift nice, are plentiful. Cons: they only handle about 300ft-lbs of torque. The stock X v8 puts out 285.

F150/Bronco M50D - a big brother to the transmission in the v6 explorers. Pros: came behind 5.0s, come with hyraulic clutch, come with 4wd tailshafts. The bolt to F150 t-cases. Cons: the f150 t-cases are too big for the X frame... no one seems to use them in swaps - i still haven't found out why.

Older 4 speeds..... yea... no OD. would be awesome as a trail only rig.

There is always the MONSTER NV4500...

 

[Hotweels]

Here's a tid bit of info for yall
My buddy has a 72 Bronco he is rebuilding, It has a C4-D20 combo stock.......... Now with a 3" body lift there was enough room for his C6-NP205 combo but we had some difficulty building a new cross member so he scraped the BL and put the C4-D20 back in
Now several companys offer a kit to install the ZF-5speed into a EB and use the D20 (FYI its a all gear driven T-case) stock case..... If you have never seen a D20 its ummm..... small...... like 2 loaves of bread kinda small and a ZF-5speed can be found in every thing from 1/2ton's to F250 diesels.
Low gearing a standard 302 bellhousing and a 6bolt circle tail housing that can be adapted to fit almost any T-case on the face of the planet....... what more can you need?????

 

[gbell]

So if the WC T5 can only take up to 300 pounds of torque what do mustang owners who mod their stangs to over 300 pounds do?

 

[RFR2212]

Originally posted by V8BoatBuilder
Cons: they only handle about 300ft-lbs of torque. The stock X v8 puts out 285.

From all my websurfing of stang sites and what not shows they'll take more than that... Most mags I see run it around 330... and if ya aint gettin on it all the time, you'd be fine. I was gonna run my wct-5 behind my mildly build 302... till I went auto!

 

[Hotweels]

So if the WC T5 can only take up to 300 pounds of torque what do mustang owners who mod their stangs to over 300 pounds do?

Upgrade to a tremec or full race modified tranny, but these get pricey and you would have to run a divorced t-case. I think some people find it hard to understand that a T5 will hold up to a 350hp 2200LB stang but when you run a 5000LB Xplorer pushing over 300HP that little T5 is gonna be seeing stresses that it was never designed to.

 

[RFR2212]

Originally posted by Hotweels
Upgrade to a tremec or full race modified tranny, but these get pricey and you would have to run a divorced t-case. I think some people find it hard to understand that a T5 will hold up to a 350hp 2200LB stang but when you run a 5000LB Xplorer pushing over 300HP that little T5 is gonna be seeing stresses that it was never designed to.

Well too bad I took mine out, I guess we wouldn't have seen how long it woulda lasted

 

[V8BoatBuilder]

I've heard about the ZF transmission... but haven't been able to find out much about it. Any good websites about them, and swapping them into vehicles?

 

[Hotweels]

The only info i can find is that they are used in late 80's to early 90's ford pickups and are a medium duty 5speed gvw blah blah blah
www.bcbroncos.com has some info and advance adapters may also have some........ just hit google or dogpile and start searching.