5th gen keys on 4th gen explorer and numpad keyless entry addition

[Yataku]

Hey everyone
My current key is kinda roughed up and broken so i want to get a brand new key when i went to the dealer they said the 4th gen keys are discontinued
Someone told me the 5th gen key the one that comes with the fob attached to it they said it would work on 4th gen explorer
Has anyone tried it before and does the keyless entry work too ?

One other question my car doesn’t have idk what it’s called but the number pad on the drivers door that locks and opens the car
Is there a way to add that functionality if i got the door panel from a junkyard
Or is there any other way to do it properly

Here’s the picture of the key I'm talking about
Thanks a lot in advance

 

[94Eddie]

The keys are still available. Maybe not from the dealer but they can easily be found on Amazon or ebay for very little money. The same goes for the key fobs. My advice is to have two keys programmed so that you can then program a third one yourself. This way if you lose a key, you can still program a new key to replace it.

 

[Flashflood]

Have you tried your local Walmart or Ace hardware they should be able to get you a key an program it to. Unless you're going for a oem looking key.

 

[ThunderbirdSport]

I'd avoid having ANY key made at wm.

My dad went in to get a spare key made for his ranger, just to keep a spare in case he got locked out. Gal at sporting goods (where keys were made) refused to do it. Told him if she made a key to unlock his doors, his "computer would burn up and his truck wouldn't run ever again".

I borrowed his truck for a weeks awhile back. Stopped at our one off mom n pop hardware store. made him a door key.
Obviously won't start it, but now if he gets locked out, he can get the doors open.

And...truck still runs! LOL.

People...smfh.

 

[94Eddie]

Have you tried your local Walmart or Ace hardware they should be able to get you a key an program it to. Unless you're going for a oem looking key.

I tried to have the keys cut at Home Depot and Lowes and they refused to do it. I don't think they stock the PATS type of keys. I ended up finding a local mom and pop hardware store to do it. Then I paid a local mobile locksmith to have one key programmed for $50 so I had two working keys to program 2-3 more.

 

[94Eddie]

I'd avoid having ANY key made at wm.

My dad went in to get a spare key made for his ranger, just to keep a spare in case he got locked out. Gal at sporting goods (where keys were made) refused to do it. Told him if she made a key to unlock his doors, his "computer would burn up and his truck wouldn't run ever again".

I borrowed his truck for a weeks awhile back. Stopped at our one off mom n pop hardware store. made him a door key.
Obviously won't start it, but now if he gets locked out, he can get the doors open.

And...truck still runs! LOL.

People...smfh.

I got the same treatment at Lowes and Home Depot. They both gave me illogical reasons as to why they couldn't/wouldn't do it.

 

[D Hook]

Same here.

Bought some blanks off Ebay and took them to a locksmith to cut a copy from my original. $10. Programmed them myself

 

[Flashflood]

I got the same treatment at Lowes and Home Depot. They both gave me illogical reasons as to why they couldn't/wouldn't do it.

That fing sucks sorry to hear that guys

 

[D Hook]

I tried Ace Hardware first. They wanted almost $200 to make the key and program it. I already had two programmed keys but the plastic hoop on one key broke off so couldn't keep it on my key ring. Just needed to have it cut. They refused to just cut the key without doing the programming.

I had the same experience at Lowe's as others had.

 

[Blackhawkxx]

My dad went in to get a spare key made for his ranger, just to keep a spare in case he got locked out. Gal at sporting goods (where keys were made) refused to do it. Told him if she made a key to unlock his doors, his "computer would burn up and his truck wouldn't run ever again".

Yes, Walmart in my area won't do it either. It isn't the "Gal" it is a company policy.

 

[ThunderbirdSport]

Yes, Walmart in my area won't do it either. It isn't the "Gal" it is a company policy.

True enough...but when someone spews a line of bovine excrement such as that....well, wal mart made a key for me for a rental house, 18, 20years ago or so. It worked, but I'd rather go somewhere else where they do as I ask and not tell me a lie.

 

[D Hook]

You really can't compare the two. The Walmart machine will only cut the keys that are in their inventory. They can cut you a key that will open the door but not start the car because it doesn't have a chip. They won't sell you a chipped key without doing the programming. And the chipped keys they sell are price around $175-200. I would not be surprised if they got out of automotive keys altogether because they're just pissing people off at this point.

When I went to Ace Hardware, there was a young-ish guy ahead of me that paid the $200 for a new key because he'd lost one of his a was desperate. This just seems like they're taking advantage of people who just don't know what else to do. I'm thinking of the single mother who can't afford to pay this price.

 

[94Eddie]

I would rather pay a small business to cut and/or program a key than some big corporation that is following ESG BS to the detriment of society. The local mobile locksmith cut and programmed the second key to my 2010 Mountaineer for $50 and I didn't have to leave my driveway. Then the local mom and pop hardware store cut three more keys (I bought them from Amazon for around $10) for less than $20 and I programmed them myself since I had two working keys. Unfortunately, ninty-five plus percent of people don't know their options and just get ripped off to get new copies.

 

[Blackhawkxx]

I would rather pay a small business to cut and/or program a key than some big corporation that is following ESG BS to the detriment of society. The local mobile locksmith cut and programmed the second key to my 2010 Mountaineer for $50 and I didn't have to leave my driveway. Then the local mom and pop hardware store cut three more keys (I bought them from Amazon for around $10) for less than $20 and I programmed them myself since I had two working keys. Unfortunately, ninty-five plus percent of people don't know their options and just get ripped off to get new copies.

I did the same thing with the local mobile locksmith $50 for key, cut and program. Then some months later, the previous owner found the other key and got it to me. Oh well.