Aftermarket Remote Start

[alex_2008]

Hey guys,

I'm looking at getting a remote starter my 2008 EB. I found this one and this reviews look pretty good and the price looks good as well.

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_16477_Viper-5701-P-N-5202V-5202B.html

Does anyone have any experience with the Viper brand, or this particular model?

Also how hard would it be it install something like this myself? Or would I be better off having it professionally installed?

 

[Jstcruz]

I recomend DEI (Viper,Rattler ect..) products to everybody wanting remote start or alarms! They are the easiest to install and probably most reliable.

As far as instalation goes, you can find the wire colors for your truck at http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.asp You will need a multimeter, wire strippers and some other basic hand tools to get under your dash. You can get simple connectors to hook everything up but I reccomend soldering and taping the connections. If you have these tools and a few hours to put into it, its not hard to put these in once you get past the thaught of a bunch of wires needing to be hooked up to another bunch of wires. Also, you will not use a few of the wires in the system, so it is not as intimidating as it seems at first. If any of this makes you nearvouse, get a pro to do it lol.

 

[alex_2008]

Thanks for the input. I do have all those tools and I can solder. I have done simpler wiring before(head unit, subs & amp, cb etc.) so i think I'll give it a shot. It looks like it will be a good Saturday project.

 

[Town]

Ford offers a remote start, my son's Explorer has one fitted.

If you install or have installed an aftermarket remote start then Ford will not support it. Their advice to their dealers is to have the remote start removed before diagnosing certain problems. You may be OK with that but they have caused problems to some people.

In some instances, like Instrument Cluster (IC) replacement, only a Ford dealer can do it because it requires matching the PCM and IC security codes and vehicle VIN. The remote start must presumeably be integrated with the PATS which is the vehicle starting security module in the IC. You will want to know how this works with the aftermarket remote start before purchase.

Good luck.

 

[jad2411]

Town fyi ford does not offer one, you can get an aftermarket one installed thru a dealer...

 

[aaronajb1981]

Being an installer for 10+ years in the professional business for a seasoned person its not tough. If you have never done it before then you may run into some trouble. LIke stated above a DMM is a must, you need to know how different wires will show n the meter. Keep in mind though there are many wires in the same locatons that are the same colors in some vehicles. if you test some incorrctly you have the chance to set off an airbag, fry a computer.

yes dei are good brands, but in a forum setting you may get many opions as to what people like. I personally have used audiovox, compustar, autopage, dei al in my own vehicles. I have even installed some of the cheap china ebay brands too before with good luck. You can take a $500 alarm and have a bad install and get nothing but trouble, or you can take a $50 alarm and get nothign but the best if its installed correctly.

like also stated you do need a bypass kit for bypass the PATS system. I prefer to use the idatalink bypasses. they are a solid bullet proof bypass. however there are other brands out there. Or you can also do the key in the "coffin" way too. where you physically hide an extra key in the vehicle.

If you only have 1 key the idatalink is the only way to go. they are one of the only companies that have the ability to program the module with only 1 key.

 

[Blee1099]

Before you go into a remote start, you should consider upgrading the factory keyless entry/"pseudo" alarm system. The factory system has no glass breakage sensors and is pretty much a overinflated keyless entry system.. Get a complete aftermarket alarm system with a remote start. You'll get the benefits of an alarm system that has triggers like glass, shock, etc along with keyless entry and a remote start setup. Don't forget to get a PATS bypass module for the remote start.

 

[aaronajb1981]

Before you go into a remote start, you should consider upgrading the factory keyless entry/"pseudo" alarm system. The factory system has no glass breakage sensors and is pretty much a overinflated keyless entry system.. Get a complete aftermarket alarm system with a remote start. You'll get the benefits of an alarm system that has triggers like glass, shock, etc along with keyless entry and a remote start setup. Don't forget to get a PATS bypass module for the remote start.

If you looked at the link he posted it is a full alarm and rs.

 

[Blee1099]

If you looked at the link he posted it is a full alarm and rs.

Just saw remote start so I thought it was one of those add-on kits like Bulldog, Crimestopper, etc makes

 

[alex_2008]

I was looking for just a remote starter then I came across this unit which had the 2 way paging which is what I wanted. The alarm is just a bonus, and the sale price seems pretty good.

I think this would be a project for the pros, they would do a better job and do it quicker than I could.

 

[Town]

Town fyi ford does not offer one, you can get an aftermarket one installed thru a dealer...

This looks like the Ford remote starter fitted in my son's Explorer: http://accessories.ford.com/kit-remote-starter-10143.html

 

[jad2411]

Yeah my audiovox system has a ford sticker too and was installed in my buddy's shop as ford contracts it out
Looks familiar?
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=230839483923&index=1&nav=SEARCH&nid=55850212727

 

[Town]

Yeah my audiovox system has a ford sticker too and was installed in my buddy's shop as ford contracts it out
Looks familiar?
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=230839483923&index=1&nav=SEARCH&nid=55850212727

That link does not appear to show a Ford remote start system, just the remote itself for a Dodge.

Does your friend have a Ford IDS for the installation of a proper Ford system?

 

[edwx]

Nice thread. I had an Autostart, one-way remote start only, installed about 4 years ago. In my case, I really wanted to do it myself, and it looked like tons of fun to do, but the way I like to take my time and do it right, I just didn't have the time. So I went to the most reputable installer in Syracuse, and had them do it. It came with a 3 yr warranty. I work at an airport and I can start my car from the terminal to the parking lot, which is 1/4 mile away. The antenna failed at about 3 years, and I went back to them (they were still there,) and they replaced it for free. I thought I paid a little too much at the time, and I was pissed because I couldn't do it myself, but in the long run it was a good decision. If I had to do it again, I'd probably get a longer range 2-way starter. Good luck....remote starters are fun toys, especially when you can have a pre-heated vehicle in 0 degree weather.