alternator/battery output?

[aznboi3644]

A capacitor will NOT fix dimming lights.

A capacitor is a voltage stabilizer...it smooths out spikes and dips of around .1 volts. It will not fix any electrical problems.

Please read further here
http://forum.realmofexcursion.com/showthread.php?t=17970

Also...my guess is that the amp REALLY puts out around 400-500 @ around 10% THD

 

[boaia5650]

i have no clue what you guys are talking about, i hooked it up today, and tryed it with my 4 1k kicker amps, and i tryed with the 1 4k amp, and it dosent only put out 500 it hits close to as hard as the kickers but w/e

 

[Andy96XLT]

A capacitor will NOT fix dimming lights.

A capacitor is a voltage stabilizer...it smooths out spikes and dips of around .1 volts. It will not fix any electrical problems.

Please read further here
http://forum.realmofexcursion.com/showthread.php?t=17970

Also...my guess is that the amp REALLY puts out around 400-500 @ around 10% THD

umm exactly? if your lights are dimming because your subs are hitting hard, this keeps a stable voltage and pulls the power from the cap instead of the electrical system. It won't fix a previous problem of lights dimming, only if your lights are dimming because of the power being used by the amp and subs.

 

[aznboi3644]

the cap is wired into the electrical system...the cap gets its power from the alternator. It's not magical

 

[Letsride]

Before doing caps and all that stuff....do a search on the big 3 upgrade and do that. Lights dimming has very little to do with the alternator and a whole lot to do with wiring.

I have a 94 that I am preping for the season right now with 4 1000W rms each and 4 15's and I have no dimming whatsoever. I do have 1/0 wire for everything though.

 

[boaia5650]

Before doing caps and all that stuff....do a search on the big 3 upgrade and do that. Lights dimming has very little to do with the alternator and a whole lot to do with wiring.

I have a 94 that I am preping for the season right now with 4 1000W rms each and 4 15's and I have no dimming whatsoever. I do have 1/0 wire for everything though.

i never said mine dimmed, i said a friend with 8k dims, and it has nothing to do with the wiring it has to do with the power.

 

[Letsride]

i never said mine dimmed, i said a friend with 8k dims, and it has nothing to do with the wiring it has to do with the power.

And I AM telling you it has to do with wiring. If he has "8K in power" and not running at least.....(notice I say LEAST) 4 runs of 0 gauge, it has everything to do with wiring.

But whatever....I am not gonna argue with anyone on the interweb about audio.....I am glad it worked out for you.

 

[boaia5650]

w/e its not the wiring, but who gives a ****

 

[aznboi3644]

8000 watts...that is the PMPO...which means nothing because the amp does not putout 8000 real watts...go ahead and believe that it does because you seem stubborn.

8000 watts output times 140% (efficiency) = 11200 watts INPUT.

11200 watts input divided by 12.5 volts = 896 amps of current.

believe what you want...math is math.

your friends amp(s) do NOT put out 8000 watts

people with 8000 watts have multiple runs of 0 gauge...why?? because if they don't they will have to much voltage drop.

0 gauge wiring is rated at a standard 300-350 amp safe draw....get real man

 

[Letsride]

;ok, you dont know **** then, im not going even to get into this, but
when i turn on the table saw in my house and the light dims a little that
the wire too? no its the power

Its funny that I dont know **** but you are the one asking basic audio questions....LOL Put some money where your mouth is and we'll see.........

You have a lot to learn....read and try to educate yourself before calling me out.....because you will lose evertime.

 

[boaia5650]

yo i know what the #### im talking about, i just have a yukon before i got the explorer and asking if could power it in the explorer since you people have explorers

its funny how a bunch of *****es try to act tuff when there online with an anonymous return path

 

[aznboi3644]

lol its funny how you try to say you are right and fight a losing battle...its useless to argue a moot point

Why do you try to act like you know ANYTHING about basic electronics when you don't have a single clue.

you say we try to act tuff??? Why do you try to act knowledgeable???

comparing home and car electronics is like comparing a bicycle and a monster truck.

Home electrical is normally 120 volts AC as in alternating current you noob

Motor vehicles use a 12 volt DC system as in Direct Current you noob.

Home electrical is high voltage low current.

To make high amounts of power with 12 volts you must have high current...low voltage high current

The lights in your house dim from the table saw because of VOLTAGE DROP....there is no point in running 4 gauge to every electrical appliance in a house because it is not necessary at all...only a waste of money. There is little to no gain from have 18 gauge to a lamp and 4 gauge to a lamp...you sir need to do some reading and LEARN SOMETHING

www.bcae1.com

 

[Letsride]

....and whats even funnier is how he tries to delete his comments that show his stupidity......LOL. I'm done.....and if you want to come and teach me and aznboi3644 about stereo installation, I'm sure we can work it out......

 

[Infinity08]

Man, I'm glad this played out before I got here. My little tidbit is this:

your alternator makes power, a cap and battery either one will only store power. Period. A cap cannot and will not increase voltage or current in a closed system. In fact, it will decrease both of those electrical factors.

 

[aznboi3644]

seems like hes scared to reply now after being proved wrong

god i hate noobs

 

[manaen]

The original question has been answered, why are we turning this into a pissing contest? Life is too short to worry about proving your point to someone you've never met, especially to the point that you want to take it up with your fists. It shouldn't be the tone of this board to take any thread to this point. That's just sophomoric. Debating an issue is one thing, but when it starts to turn into an emotional battle you need to take 5 and think about what your typing.

One of the reasons I like this board is that in general everyone is willing to help, and not make people feel like idiots when they don't know something. I believe that is part of the underlying success of the forum. However entertaining conversations like this will lead to people leaving for emotional reasons.

Why don't you just agree to disagree in this instance...

 

[Letsride]

why are we turning this into a pissing contest?...

My intention was not to turn anything into a pissing contest. I like you like the general tone of the board. I was trying to help when I was told that I did not know ****. Well if he knew basic 12 electronics he would have been able to answer his own questions. I refuse to be insulted
by him especially since I have been around car audio from several different positions......Installer, Judge, Owner etc.

I have over 20 years experience in the field and my comment to him about coming to teach us something was an open invitation to come down to my facillity with his vehicle and see how the job should be done.

His insults to us were unwarranted... Period.

 

[manaen]

His insults to us were unwarranted... Period.

Agreed

 

[aznboi3644]

ignorance IS bliss I guess

but yes agree to disagree

 

[SilverSPL]

would the stock alternator/battey in a 98 explorer be enough to power a 4000w/70a amplifier?

my friend has 8000w and his lights would go out when the speakers were on, id like to advoid that

I run 8000W RMS Daily in my explorer and you will need to extensively upgrady your electrical system to handle 4000W or 8000W to be running at optimal performance. I have upgraded the alternator to a 200A one and have 5 kinetik 2400 batteries that put out 2600amps each. You can check out my build in the link below
My opinion would be to get 2 kinetik 2400 batteries and get a 200A Alternator and obviously upgrade all the wiring to 1/0 wire.

And on the caps issue, I have used 1 farad caps with good results on amplifiers rated below 1000W usually good for amps that are 500W. It helps keep the voltage from dipping too low and saves alternators from crapping out. Anything bigger than 800w your better off getting more batteries.