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Can't find my orfice tube!

ernzo

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2003 Mercury Mountaineer
91 explorer, found the line under the dryer, but the only possible location where there is a spring lock is in front, in front of the battery and this looks like the line going into the condenser...HELP!
 



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It is located under the air filter box.You will need to remove air filter assy and probably the battery to get to it.
 






Can't find my orfice tube!
REally ?? its ummmmmmmmmmmmm... never mind! lol
sorry could not resist.
 






funny...Thanks, I will look there. Sadly, this AC project has gone in the crapper completely. I just don;t seem to have the car repair karma I used to have.
 






Short answer.
Long story short.. If you found the tube where the orifice tube goes into (the one on the evaporator) and its not there and hasn't been opened since the system worked you blew it into the evaporator.

Long Answer...
Been there done that..

Years ago, the A/C was working great.. next day nothing. I hooked up the manifold gauges and found no pressure drop across the orifice tube. I pulled the line off and voila.. NO ORIFICE TUBE.

I called a neighbor (mechanic) of mine and asked him what to do.. He told me it depended on how good my karma was.. He suggested I throw another tube in there, evacuate and fill it.. and just remember that my evaporator now has an orifice tube in there too. I did that and the a/c worked..

Fast forward many years later..

While working on the new upper front shock mounts I got a little happy with a grinder and hit the evaporator box.. which mean I let a bunch of green gas and goop out.

I bought another evaporator, orifice tube and acumulator (figured, why not).. I patched the a/c box and changed the evaporator and accumulator and put in the new orifice tube. While charging this system everything was going well then I heard a loud pop and then no pressure drop.

Yup.. I blew another orifice tube into the evaporator. I looked at what was holding the orifice tube in and it was just a couple (yes, 2) tiny dimples on the line. I took a pair of channel locks and made more/deeper dimples while being careful to keep the tube round. I then put in another orifice tube, evacuated it, charged it and the a/c is still going strong (only a couple years later so far)..

We use Variable orifice tubes which give you a bigger pressure differential so I don't know if that had any bearing on it...


~Mark
 






I like the long answer...hey is the tube changeable? Someone just said it is not, I have to buy the whole line! I expect a spring lock disconect, right??
 






Is the orifice tube changeable? Yes.

Is the tube the orifice tube goes into changeable? No... and the repair kits won't work either.

The tube the orifice tube goes into is part of the evaporator. To get to it you actually aren't removing spring lock connections. You use wrenches to disconnect the line from the evaporator tube that comes out your a/c box at the bottom/front of it. Once the line is off the orifice tube "should" be in the tube that is going into the a/c box.

~Mark
 






ok, is the disconect accessible under the air box, right? The tube coming out of the evap does not seem to have a disconect, but I have not taken off the air box...rhanks again explorer team!!
 






I can't find an exact pic of it, but I did find some pics of a raw evaporator and its definately held on with a wrench and not the spring lock.

There are 2 lines coming out of the a/c box. The one on the top is going to the accumulator (aka dryer).

The one on the bottom goes to a hose.. If your airbox is still in there and you still have your inner fenderwell (plastic liner) its gonna be tough to see/get to that line. We don't run a inner fender anymore so its easy to just pull the tire (or reach over it) to work on the a/c.

I did find one pic where I can barely see the line on our truck, and it is definatly a wrench to take it off. There is a silver tube going left/right just below the sharpie mark I put on the fender in this pic. I can see the connector to the right in the pic and its not a spring lock.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10384420@N03/4170402293/sizes/l/in/set-72157603195823952/


~Mark
 






Thanks! I will tear back into it this weekend!!
 






Done!

Ok, just wanted to follow up. The access for the orifice tube required taking off the air box as recommended, and it is there under all the wires! After recycling the existing charge, I opened up the nut and exposes the tip of the orifice tube and pulled it out. Sure enough, it was well plugged. I replaced it and charged it up and and we have AC!

Thanks to all for the help! Now for the Radius Arm Bushings!!:p:
 






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