E3 plugs

[lynnboy021]

the E3 spark plugs? i was thinking of getting them for a spring tune-up, they say more hp and mpg

 

[1AJeremyD]

I wouldn't really say you will see any real gains. A spark is a spark but what they are advertising is a cleaner burn of the fuel when it ignites. Bosch said the same thing with the quad tipped spark plugs. Really its not going to make any significant difference to the point where you will gain 4 mpg and 10 HP.

 

[techieman33]

Agreed, it's not going to make any difference. Stick with the motorcraft platinum plugs and you can't go wrong.

 

[IZwack]

I wouldn't really say you will see any real gains. A spark is a spark but what they are advertising is a cleaner burn of the fuel when it ignites. Bosch said the same thing with the quad tipped spark plugs. Really its not going to make any significant difference to the point where you will gain 4 mpg and 10 HP.

You mean advertising isn't always true?!?!? Say it aint so!!

 

[1AJeremyD]

You mean advertising isn't always true?!?!? Say it aint so!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENXvZ9YRjbo

I'm sorry to burst your bubble and ambitions on purchasing one of those Tornadoes and getting a massive increase in MPG. Last time I saw one of those it was in a junk yard and one of the spokes broke off and ended up in the engine.

Stick with just regular spark plugs. More $$$ doesn't equate to better parts.

 

[Joe Dirt]

Stick with just regular spark plugs. More $$$ doesn't equate to better parts.

Jeremy is right- cost does not equal better. Stickers do. Any parts that come with stickers equate to better performance, better fuel economy, and more attention and success with the opposite sex.

 

[edwx]

Autolite XP's worked great in my '03 4.0L!

 

[1AJeremyD]

Jeremy is right- cost does not equal better. Stickers do. Any parts that come with stickers equate to better performance, better fuel economy, and more attention and success with the opposite sex.

Nothing says fast like a sticker

 

[Joe Dirt]

Perfect. Both an Intel AND an AMD, AND an Apple sticker...

Well done! That must be Tony's computer...

 

[1AJeremyD]

Thats the computer that runs the E3 spark plugs website actually.

 

[D Hook]

When the Split Fires first came out I tried a set in my other car. Saw no difference.

Then someone told me that the spark just jumps to one of the points anyway and will always jump to the same point, making it no different than other plugs.

I suppose the mfg. claims differently.

 

[2002GreyHD150]

any gains they have claimed were from the fact that there was a FRESH set of plugs not the plugs themselves.

The ONLY reason for Platinum, Iridium, or UnObtainium plugs is to ignore common sense maintenance on the vehicle. I will never understand that "ostrich with head in sand" approach to keeping up the 2nd largest expense for people.

100K spark plugs = not knowing what is going on. Same with 150K coolant, 5K oil changes etc. Its a way for the dealers to get more $$ from you since vehicles are arguably better built, longer lasting. So they see you less often.

NGK V-Power Copper plugs every time for my cars. & no the v-power is not a claim for better performance. ;-)

Rob

 

[fedyfedz]

why change to a different plug when the motocraft copper plugs lasted 100k with no problems. Copper is always the best way to go, and from looking at these it doesnt look like they are copper, but i could be wrong. I replaced mine at 100k and plan to run the motocraft copper plugs for another 100

 

[esclamada]

There is that thing called "Placebo" effect. I expect something good about it (since I've paid much for it) when there's really nothing. It's true with synthetic oils, cold air intake and worst "monster cables" in best buy...





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[fedyfedz]

synthetic oils are far superior to regular oils, and people get cold air intake mainly for sound and the 1-2 mpg increase.(which is dyno proven with certain companies.) and monster cables are the best in the industry, they are the only company that replaces wires or cables for free. They dont even ask you any questions they just hand you a new cable. Not sure the placebo effect is true in these cases

 

[esclamada]

that's my point, just because they are superior it means they have any significant effects on the performance of your car (or tv signal in the case of monster cable)

sure a nice growl is nice to hear but does it improve gas mileage (debatable?) since you want to hear that growl always then you have to step on the gas more, so where is the gain in MPG there? I know there's some improvement in horsepower but it's always on the expense of gas mileage.

how many times do you have to replace your hdmi cable? unless your disconnecting/reconnecting it 100x a day, it make sense to buy a sturdy product.

is it required to use synthetic on ford explorers and is there a proof that it will run better with synthetics?




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[fedyfedz]

Once the lead foot goes away there is a slight increase in mpg. If you look on the K&N website i believe for a dodge ram, or something dodge, they had a dyno sheet stating that it added 20 horsepower, with that amount added (with no lead foot) you will see a difference in performance obviously. But the driver effect's every mod or change to the truck.

all new cars are switching to synthetic if they haven't done so already. I read an article last year that stated that people are changing their oil too much(daily drivers not hardcore users) I dont have actual proof my self that they run better with synthetic but why would all car companies be switching to a more expensive oil. Some new cars state to change oil between 7500-9000 miles.

But on the flipside if you switch to synthetic in an older car sometimes leaks will occur because the synthetic al though it operates better, it is slightly lighter or not as thick as regular oil. Syntheic operates better in hot and cold temps.

I figure switching the fluids all to synthetic will help my explorer get to 300k!!(that's my goal plus i like purple oil )

 

[Clank]

So, apparently I was deleted for "spam" about the E3 spark plugs... even though I was just replying to everyone, but I understand. Anyhow, I decided not to go with E3s, I went with bosch instead. The four prong ones. I spoke to some mechanic and we talked about it for about an hour and I figured it was the better choice. Reason being the spark plug is just more open to hit the gas.

I'm still not seeing very much power. Could be the plugs just arn't that powerful, or it's something else. I should have went with the iridium plugs first to have a control group.

 

[swshawaii]

Anyhow, I decided not to go with E3s, I went with bosch instead. The four prong ones.
I'm still not seeing very much power. Could be the plugs just arn't that powerful, or it's something else. I should have went with the iridium plugs first to have a control group.

After all that's been written on this forum, you chose Bosch plugs.:thumbdwn:

Time and again, it's proven that OEM Motorcraft or Autolite work. DONE.

 

[rookieshooter]

Well now, let me introduce some Old School and The more things change, the more they stay the same areas of thought.

Once I had a drag car that ran right on the World Record in C/G or pronounced C-Gas. They were some of the wildest of the wild back in the day.
The record was 10.02 seconds Elapsed time and a speed of 120 which my car could do.
With that said I became pretty good at reading the condition of the single electrode spark plug. But once the times might have dropped a few thousands or hundreds we changed spark plugs.
But here's the kicker. I had a friend who I matched race against and showed me a trick on how he ran the exact same plug. But instead of throwing them away when track times slowed, he would use them again and sometimes even run faster times when new
This is what he did. He had one of those little spark plug cleaners that used pressurized air to clean the plug with sand.
I know what your thinking how can a cleaned plug run as good or better then a non-fouled new plug that was not modified anyway?
Simple it is the same thing I do to my Old School single electrode plugs I run today in my Kick A#$ Aluminum head and all kinds of go fast parts in my 302.
Sparks love to jump off or onto sharp corners.
So I have for decades used one of those flat little files which I work both parts of the electrode. Make sure you get both flats. Then the upper is filed sharp on both sides and end.
I have tried all the plugs that the Big advertising agency were hired buy spark plug manufacturers to make you think your one notch above every one else.
Didn't a Circus Man say "There's a sucker born every minute"?
So now after changing so many times I went back to the same old same old plug.
But will say this, of all the electrode styles the new ones have, the single sharp point lasted longer. But not as long as the old flat electrode that I could fill to even better operating conditions then new.
It works so well in my racing days that I would file the electrode before ever installing them.
Autolights is one of the better ones I use.

One other thing that is just as important and overlooked so much is this...When did you last Ohm your wires?