As long as we are updating this old thread, let me say that the BRAND NEW models of the Mile Marker winch are in stock now - (the 8000 and 9000 pound models) and they look good - come complete WITH a roller fairlead (packed in the original box - so don't let 4-wheel parts tell you that they are throwing in something extra) and sells for under $400. My cost on them is closer to $335 - so if you know a jobber, you can get a really good price.