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Headlight recomendation

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1996 Ford Explorer Sport
Looking for recommendations for a 9007 LED headlight. Something that'll fit the factory style housings on my 96' Explorer sport. The current bulbs in there are HB7/9007 (dated Nov 95 and still working)
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I'm looking for some Jesus bulbs. Something that makes it look like daytime in the middle of the night

Many thanks,
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Please don't. That's not legal for public roads and will blind other drivers. Notice that no major brand bulb manufacturers make them.

Incandescent headlight housings do not produce the right beam pattern for LED retrofit bulbs and the problem is compounded by the excessively cold color temperature light, and being brighter too.

Bulbs do dim over time, you might try one of the various incandescent options available on Rock Auto.
 






Please don't. That's not legal for public roads and will blind other drivers. Notice that no major brand bulb manufacturers make them.

Incandescent headlight housings do not produce the right beam pattern for LED retrofit bulbs and the problem is compounded by the excessively cold color temperature light, and being brighter too.

Bulbs do dim over time, you might try one of the various incandescent options available on Rock Auto.
What r u talking about? LEDs are legal. In fact they come standard in every brand new vehicle. I'm not looking to blind drivers. That's why you adjust headlights
 






Please don't. That's not legal for public roads and will blind other drivers. Notice that no major brand bulb manufacturers make them.

Incandescent headlight housings do not produce the right beam pattern for LED retrofit bulbs and the problem is compounded by the excessively cold color temperature light, and being brighter too.

Bulbs do dim over time, you might try one of the various incandescent options available on Rock Auto.
We get a lot of snow where I live. Incandescent bulbs just don't cut it in a -20 degree snowstorm. I've had Silver holder LEDs in my 95' explorer for over two years and have never been pulled over
 






What r u talking about? LEDs are legal. In fact they come standard in every brand new vehicle. I'm not looking to blind drivers. That's why you adjust headlights
Factory LED headlights with integrated assemblies are legal, but drop-in LED retrofit bulbs are not legal for use on US public roads. An incandescent reflector is not designed for the different beam pattern produced by LEDs. There's plenty of info out there if you choose to research rather than believing the sellers of illegal products.

You can't have it both ways, cannot see better with them, and not blind other drivers, and are illegal either way.

The last thing you should want is a colder color temperature light in a snowstorm, because that cause the light to bounce back off the snow more than penetrate it, and since incan bulbs produce more heat, they melt more snow and ice off the lenses. If you were to aim them down so much that they weren't blinding others, they'd be useless for the distant vision you need for everyday driving, might as well use fog lights for near vision in snow and fog and then, you again want a warm color temperature to not bounce back and blind yourself.

It is probable that you just need to drive slower in snow storms, if you already have illegal LED headlights but want them even more blinding.

People are complaining more and more about being blinded by factory LED headlights, let alone the illegal LED retrofits. Not being pulled over yet, is not a rationalization to use them, particularly when you want them brighter. Many times when I am blinded, I don't even bother to flash my brights to let someone know, because it is obvious there is nothing they can do at the moment because they aren't using their high beams, just illegal blinding LED headlights.
 






I use Philips X-treme Power bulbs, and a single Rigid Industries LED bar mounted in the OEM fog light location, for my night commutes…

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While J_C has valid points, I run Sealights LED bulbs in my '99: Sealight 9007/HB5

Even with new incandescent bulbs, the factory housing were unacceptably dim for safe driving. The Sealight bulbs I got do require proper orientation when installed, but the light pattern cutoff was roughly the same as the incandescent bulb. I say "roughly" because the fill under the line was massively improved, but the light fill at the line and above is nearly identical. That means that I have much better light distribution up to about 30' in front of the Explorer, but after that it unfortunately reaches about as far as the incandescent bulbs did. I also properly aimed the headlights and they are no more blinding to oncoming drivers as the stock incandescent bulbs were. Note that that is true only for the Sealight bulbs I linked to above, and may not be true for any other LED bulbs you find including others from Sealight.

It's worth reiterating one item that J_C noted, which is the lack of heat generated by LEDs. I live in a snowy place, and the LED bulbs do not generate enough heat to melt off snow and ice that may collect on the headlight lenses the way incandescent bulbs do, so depending upon weather conditions additional steps may be required to keep your headlights functional in the weather months. OEM LED headlights often incorporate the LED driver heatsink, or embed heating filaments, into the housing to combat ice buildup on the lenses, but that's not a feature provided by drop-in LED bulbs.
 






I also properly aimed the headlights and they are no more blinding to oncoming drivers as the stock incandescent bulbs were.

That is literally impossible, if you perceived any benefit to using them.

If the bulbs had the exact same beam pattern as the factory bulbs, and the exact same aim, and brightness too, you wouldn't be able to see as well as using the factory bulbs, because the human eye cannot interpret detail in the colder color temperature LED light as well, is overwhelmed by it. You are welcome to do a web search to verify this, and everything else I state below.

So, to any extent that you can see the same with the colder color temp bulbs, let alone better, you are casting more blinding light at others. There is no way around this, unless you are only trying to see 10' in front of the vehicle to not run over ants and aimed them that low.

Literally, if you had the stock headlights, and the only things you changed were the cold color temperature, then you are blinding people more. If you also add more light, with the cold color temperature, and aim them down more, then even if you can't see further, you are still blinding people more, because they still get the effect when they get closer to you (or you get closer to them when following behind), and the housing reflector is not containing the beam pattern correctly.

Once upon a time ago, people drove fine with headlights that weren't as good as the stock incan bulbs in Explorer headlights. What they did when they couldn't see well to drive at night or in snow storms, was slow down or not drive, not blinding everyone else instead and pretending it isn't happening, when it is happening.

Again, there is no possible way to see better with LED retrofit drop in bulbs, without blinding other drivers more. If you are only blinding them a little bit more, then there wasn't even a point to it, when there are brighter incandescent bulbs on the market that preserve the correct beam pattern that the reflector in the headlight enclosure was designed for.

You cannot properly aim a headlight with the wrong bulb in and a colder color temperature that produces more light.

There are plenty of people out there who are taking notice of this trend to use excessive headlights and make excuses. I am not alone by a long shot. There just isn't a good reason for it. You are NOT in that much of a hurry and no matter what amount of light your headlights produce, you are less and less safe, the faster you drive, thinking you can do so because you can see that X amount further ahead by illegally upgrading (really downgrading) your headlights. Think about that for a minute. There's nothing positive about it unless under the illusion that your time is too precious to drive in a way that is safest for everyone, including not blinding them.

Despite brighter and brighter headlights, and better handling and braking vehicles over the years, the number of annual vehicle fatalities on US roads is increasing, and the greatest percentage increase happened at night. That's real lives being lost, not just whether you get to drive a few seconds faster because you have brighter headlights.
 






That is literally impossible, if you perceived any benefit to using them.

If the bulbs had the exact same beam pattern as the factory bulbs, and the exact same aim, and brightness too, you wouldn't be able to see as well as using the factory bulbs, because the human eye cannot interpret detail in the colder color temperature LED light as well, is overwhelmed by it. You are welcome to do a web search to verify this, and everything else I state below.

So, to any extent that you can see the same with the colder color temp bulbs, let alone better, you are casting more blinding light at others. There is no way around this, unless you are only trying to see 10' in front of the vehicle to not run over ants and aimed them that low.

Literally, if you had the stock headlights, and the only things you changed were the cold color temperature, then you are blinding people more. If you also add more light, with the cold color temperature, and aim them down more, then even if you can't see further, you are still blinding people more, because they still get the effect when they get closer to you (or you get closer to them when following behind), and the housing reflector is not containing the beam pattern correctly.

Once upon a time ago, people drove fine with headlights that weren't as good as the stock incan bulbs in Explorer headlights. What they did when they couldn't see well to drive at night or in snow storms, was slow down or not drive, not blinding everyone else instead and pretending it isn't happening, when it is happening.

Again, there is no possible way to see better with LED retrofit drop in bulbs, without blinding other drivers more. If you are only blinding them a little bit more, then there wasn't even a point to it, when there are brighter incandescent bulbs on the market that preserve the correct beam pattern that the reflector in the headlight enclosure was designed for.

You cannot properly aim a headlight with the wrong bulb in and a colder color temperature that produces more light.

There are plenty of people out there who are taking notice of this trend to use excessive headlights and make excuses. I am not alone by a long shot. There just isn't a good reason for it. You are NOT in that much of a hurry and no matter what amount of light your headlights produce, you are less and less safe, the faster you drive, thinking you can do so because you can see that X amount further ahead by illegally upgrading (really downgrading) your headlights. Think about that for a minute. There's nothing positive about it unless under the illusion that your time is too precious to drive in a way that is safest for everyone, including not blinding them.

Despite brighter and brighter headlights, and better handling and braking vehicles over the years, the number of annual vehicle fatalities on US roads is increasing, and the greatest percentage increase happened at night. That's real lives being lost, not just whether you get to drive a few seconds faster because you have brighter headlights.
Dude... Chill... They are aftermarket headlight housings that are designed to house LEDs. Clear housings. And I'm not concerned about aiming them further. Just brighter. You really need to chill out about something as simple as a LED headlight recommend
 






That is literally impossible, if you perceived any benefit to using them.

If the bulbs had the exact same beam pattern as the factory bulbs, and the exact same aim, and brightness too, you wouldn't be able to see as well as using the factory bulbs, because the human eye cannot interpret detail in the colder color temperature LED light as well, is overwhelmed by it. You are welcome to do a web search to verify this, and everything else I state below.

So, to any extent that you can see the same with the colder color temp bulbs, let alone better, you are casting more blinding light at others. There is no way around this, unless you are only trying to see 10' in front of the vehicle to not run over ants and aimed them that low.

Literally, if you had the stock headlights, and the only things you changed were the cold color temperature, then you are blinding people more. If you also add more light, with the cold color temperature, and aim them down more, then even if you can't see further, you are still blinding people more, because they still get the effect when they get closer to you (or you get closer to them when following behind), and the housing reflector is not containing the beam pattern correctly.

Once upon a time ago, people drove fine with headlights that weren't as good as the stock incan bulbs in Explorer headlights. What they did when they couldn't see well to drive at night or in snow storms, was slow down or not drive, not blinding everyone else instead and pretending it isn't happening, when it is happening.

Again, there is no possible way to see better with LED retrofit drop in bulbs, without blinding other drivers more. If you are only blinding them a little bit more, then there wasn't even a point to it, when there are brighter incandescent bulbs on the market that preserve the correct beam pattern that the reflector in the headlight enclosure was designed for.

You cannot properly aim a headlight with the wrong bulb in and a colder color temperature that produces more light.

There are plenty of people out there who are taking notice of this trend to use excessive headlights and make excuses. I am not alone by a long shot. There just isn't a good reason for it. You are NOT in that much of a hurry and no matter what amount of light your headlights produce, you are less and less safe, the faster you drive, thinking you can do so because you can see that X amount further ahead by illegally upgrading (really downgrading) your headlights. Think about that for a minute. There's nothing positive about it unless under the illusion that your time is too precious to drive in a way that is safest for everyone, including not blinding them.

Despite brighter and brighter headlights, and better handling and braking vehicles over the years, the number of annual vehicle fatalities on US roads is increasing, and the greatest percentage increase happened at night. That's real lives being lost, not just whether you get to drive a few seconds faster because you have brighter headlights.
Ok karen
 






Dude... Chill... They are aftermarket headlight housings that are designed to house LEDs. Clear housings. And I'm not concerned about aiming them further. Just brighter. You really need to chill out about something as simple as a LED headlight recommend
Prove it? Show us these "aftermarket headlight housings that are designed to house LEDs"

Many of us would like a properly designed housing for that. It would be great news if you found one... BUT, it would only be designed for a specific LED bulb, there is no such thing as a universal housing designed for any random LED retrofit you want to toss in it.

Yes, you want brighter, at the colder color temperature. There is nothing you can argue away. Please do the research.

Chilling out isn't a factor, growing up is. You are no safer with blinding headlights than you are with legal ones at the appropriate road speed for the conditions. Drive safe or drive excessively and blind people... hmm.

Note that I am not opposed to aux lighting used on back roads where they are turned off when around other motorists, pedestrians, etc. but blinding headlights aren't that.
 






Prove it? Show us these "aftermarket headlight housings that are designed to house LEDs"

Many of us would like a properly designed housing for that. It would be great news if you found one... BUT, it would only be designed for a specific LED bulb, there is no such thing as a universal housing designed for any random LED retrofit you want to toss in it.

Yes, you want brighter, at the colder color temperature. There is nothing you can argue away. Please do the research.

Chilling out isn't a factor, growing up is. You are no safer with blinding headlights than you are with legal ones at the appropriate road speed for the conditions. Drive safe or drive excessively and blind people... hmm.

Note that I am not opposed to aux lighting used on back roads where they are turned off when around other motorists, pedestrians, etc. but blinding headlights aren't that.

Prove it? Show us these "aftermarket headlight housings that are designed to house LEDs"

Many of us would like a properly designed housing for that. It would be great news if you found one... BUT, it would only be designed for a specific LED bulb, there is no such thing as a universal housing designed for any random LED retrofit you want to toss in it.

Yes, you want brighter, at the colder color temperature. There is nothing you can argue away. Please do the research.

Chilling out isn't a factor, growing up is. You are no safer with blinding headlights than you are with legal ones at the appropriate road speed for the conditions. Drive safe or drive excessively and blind people... hmm.

Note that I am not opposed to aux lighting used on back roads where they are turned off when around other motorists, pedestrians, etc. but blinding headlights aren't that.
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These are clear aftermarket housings just in a factory style. They have no light dispersion.
 






Showing a picture of a vehicle and making a claim, is not a specific product claiming to be designed for LED drop-ins, and as I already mentioned, it is literally impossible for universal compatibility because it depends on the exact placement, #, and beam angle of every LED on the retrofit.

Are those even LED drop-ins pictured? They look more warm colored like incandescent and yet, not showing the beam at night when it's dark, with a beam pattern on a wall showing a contrast between incan and LED.

If you just get some random aftermarket housing designed for stock incan bulbs, it will not have the right beam pattern for LED drop ins but even if it did, there is still the increased amount of light and cold color temperature, that isn't necessary for LEDs, but everyone is producing the cold color temp LEDs for misguided reasons.

The only way to have the correct beam pattern is a housing designed for a specific LED bulb/array, like found on vehicles with factory LED headlights which do not use drop in retrofit style bulbs.
 






Dude, that's getting ugly.

Incandescent bulbs loose brightness over time, so they do need replacement even when working. I don't buy the higher end bulbs because they fade just as quickly.

I have never had an issue with incandescent bulb not cutting it in cold, cold temps with much snow and 52 years of skiing. There is likely an advantage to the warmth they give off.

I think the SilverHolder LED's are too damn bright and would effect oncoming drivers. I would not run them in consideration of others. You can see them online, they claim 300% brighter and show them shining brightly on both lanes and beyond which would be in oncoming traffics face!
 






The LED bulbs I tried were TOO bright/white. Best way I can explain it? My eyes had a hard time with the contrast of white to pure black vs yellowish to shadows.

I had that aftermarket style reflector. It was GARBAGE, no matter what type of bulb I used. I ended up getting OEM style and quality bulbs. I don't do much night driving, so the shorter lifespan of the hotter(?) bulbs isn't an issue.

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@Explorer2.0 , I always wanted to try those bulbs, since they are the upgrade to the X-treme Power ones I use…
 






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