Interested in a Full Floating 8.8?

[CoryL]

Originally posted by soupbone
Id plan to purchase the axle,tcase,dshafts,etc and try to get it all done at once. Would just need a rent a car.

That would require one long car rental.

 

[CoryL]

Originally posted by JoshC
Cory, you left the last part of that second quote out man!

I left it out because you don't need 60s to surpass the 1354 t-case's capabilities. I know people that have broken them with 35" tires, a TTB D35 and an 8.8".

 

[soupbone]

Josh,

Nope just saving for a locked HP 44 and Atlas II 3.8.

Cory,

I know im off topic but just out of curiosity.... are there any SF or FF D60s out there with the VSS sensor and tone ring?

 

[CoryL]

Originally posted by soupbone
Josh,

Nope just saving for a locked HP 44 and Atlas II 3.8.

Cory,

I know im off topic but just out of curiosity.... are there any SF or FF D60s out there with the VSS sensor and tone ring?

Why only the 3.8 Atlas? If it is becaus you think you will overpower your brakes with the 4.3 (if you have an Auto) you have fallen prey to some misinformation.

I do not know of any rear 60s with VSS. The closest thing I can think to do would be to get a D50 front and 10.5" rear from a SuperDuty.

 

[soupbone]

Im not familiar with the 10.5 yet. Hrmm I believe AA recomends the 3.8 for autos. But if you say the 4.3 will work and wont cause any problems I dont see why not.

 

[JoshC]

I thought the Atlas IIs came with a brake on them?? Or am i thinking of something else?

 

[Michael]

I thought the Atlas IIs came with a brake on them

You can get them with a brake from High Angle Driveline, or you can buy their kit to retrofit one you already have. www.highangledriveline.com

 

[CoryL]

Originally posted by soupbone
Im not familiar with the 10.5 yet. Hrmm I believe AA recomends the 3.8 for autos. But if you say the 4.3 will work and wont cause any problems I dont see why not.

The 10.5" Sterling rear is huge. Rear discs and you can go as low as 5.13s. Lockers are available. I think they are 1.5" 35 spline shafts too.

I run a 4.0, C5, 4.3 Atlas, 5.13s and 38s and there is now way in low range that it will overpower my brakes. I do have rear discs, but so do all second gens.

Josh,

A company called High Angle Driveline makes a t-case yoke mounted e-brake kit for the Atlas 2, but they don't come that way factory.

 

[Randall]

Either way, it is a parking brake, and does not tie into your normal brakes. It would not have any effect on whether or not your low range would overpower your brakes.

 

[JoshC]

Are you still running your 1354 in yours Randall? If so, have you had any problems with it turning the 36's with the D44 and the Ox locker?

 

[Randall]

I broke the tcase, but not because of the tires and locker. The shift motor went out on it, so I was shifting it by turning the knob manually, and I twisted that all to hell. I have an atlas on the way to the house now to replace it, a 4.3 with driveline brake from
high angle driveline. Oh, and I have a detroit up front.

 

[JoshC]

I thought you had an Ox locker at Tellico, i'm confused

How much does the driveline brake cost?

 

[Randall]

I did, but I replaced it with a detroit. I believe it is 289 as an add on or 189 if you buy it with the case.

 

[soupbone]

Originally posted by CoryL
The 10.5" Sterling rear is huge.

Giant man! I think you could fit two 8.8 centers in it. I saw a FF one under a superduty over the weekend. Hrmm SD axles under a explorer... heh Would be cheaper than the a 8.8 kit and much more beefy. Would have to cut it down for get some big mud flaps. Dreaming again........



http://projectresponder.com/images/drivetrain/spindleopen_284_370.jpg

http://projectresponder.com/images/drivetrain/spindlehub_284_306.jpg

I see the tone ring.
http://projectresponder.com/images/drivetrain/limited-slip_450_257.jpg

http://projectresponder.com/images/drivetrain/axleinstalled-r_450_281.jpg

 

[MonsterTrac]

The main reason I would want to full float my 8.8 before I swapped in a d60 is because of the VSS sensor on my sport trac, I have an auto tranny, and As far as I know, I cannot replace my rear axle. Maybe If I replaced my tranny, I might be able to replace my rear axle, But If I replaced my tranny, would I have to replace mY computer? Sounds like alot more work than the full float kti in my 8.8. Im also looking to do a disc brake conversaion on my 8.8 also. But for all of the things that I would have to change, I may be wrong there, feel free to correct me. Id be well on my way to doing a v8 swap, Id already be needing a new tranny......comments anyone...

 

[NOTAJP]

MonsterTrac,
I firmly believe you don't need a FF conversion for your 8.8. If you actually break an axle a long time down the road, then you might consider to option but not necessary. I don't believe you need a D60 either. You as most people don't believe in the 8.8 or give it much credit. There are some atributes that make this axle stronger than a 9". Your 'trac already has disc brakes on the rear. If you had an eariler 8.8, the disc brake system is a direct bolt on.

 

[MonsterTrac]

NOTAJP - only the 03+ have disc brakes, mine has drums. In order to replace with discs, I would need two rotors, 4 pads, new master cylinder, new hard brake lines ran, new soft brake lines, and mounting hardware. I am very interested in doing this. I am also interested in a re-gear, a locker, and possibly a full-float kit, althought the full float kit seems to be not worth the money, assuming I went ahead and did the disc brake conversion. Basically I dont want to spend the money re-gearing and locking my current axle, If I am going to have problems with breaking parts when I supercharge my engine, added to the stress of the 35 thornbirds, and the fact that my Trac sees alot of time in the desert, I dont abuse my truck, but I do use it. Just trying to get information now, before I waste money. Another Reason Im probably nto going to replace my axle is that my auto tranny depends on the VSS sensor mounted in the axle to shift gears correctly. In order to replace my axle, I would probably have to replace my transmission. But there is a good chance Im going to do that anyway, because my stock mazda piece already broke once at 68 K, and it probably wont hold up to the supercharger. Thanks for your advice. Im always looking for more if you have more input.

 

[Nate1]

My '99 8.8 has disc brakes.

Honestly, before you break your axle, your much more likely to break a U joint or tear up teeth on a Ring or Pinion. I dont think you have anything to worry about.

 

[MonsterTrac]

You have an Explorer Sport, the sport Tracs didnt get disc brakes till 03.

I realize breaking teeth on a ring and pinion is a weak point, and that is something that would be fixed by replacing, or rebuilding an axle. Just trying to make shure I can get away with re-building with all of the extra stress it will be under. I dont want to replace my axle unless the 8.8 will not handle it. If the 8.8 is strong enough, there is no reason to replace it. Just trying to figure out if 8.8 will handle a supercharger + other engine mods, 35" thornbirds, and plenty of usage out in the desert.

 

[Nate1]

Make everything in your suspension weld points and bolt points etc stuff, and it will. As long as you dont collapse a spring purch and wrap your axle or something, I cant really imagine you messing it up. A little reinforcement and a new stronger cover couldn't hurt, but I doubt its necessary at all.

Why not goto a junkyard and get a sport's disc system? It would be nicely cheap... or you could get stillen or brembos