Mid ranges or 3-ways for back doors?

[newbz]

I'm trying to figure out what to put in the back doors, in teh front I have 6 1/2 pioneer 3-ways and they are great, but I want your guys advice since your da pros

 

[karl_burns]

Rear speakers

Are your front speakers amped?
If so, do this test:

Play the stereo at the normal volume you listen to.
Now, fade the signal (without changing the volume) so it plays only on the rear speakers. (Pretty low, huh?). Now, play the stereo at normal volume on all four again. Finally, play ONLY the front speakers (again, without changing the volume). Not a difference, huh?

Your front speakers are designed to fill the car, not just the front seats. So the rear speakers are (IMO) truly optional. In fact, I'm probably not going to have any in my 98 Sport.

Bottom line, your front speakers should be able to fill the car.

But if you want, go ahead and stay with the 3-ways, or get whatever sounds good to you. But remember, you'll never be sitting back there to enjoy them, so you don't need to spend bookoos of money.

Karl

 

[Mike 92 XLT]

Karl is right. The rear speakers are pretty worthless in the 4 doors, IMO. If there are any passengers back there to enjoy them, their knees block the speakers anyway. Also, getting 3 ways in the rear would absolutely destroy your imaging and soundstaging.

peace

Mike

 

[Fast Eddie]

Has anyone tried taking a 6x8 two or three way speaker and disconnecting the tweeters/midrange. Would this give you all bass? How would this compare to a sub?

 

[JTang]

Hi Fast Eddie-

If you want something like that, there are some other companies that make only midbass drivers. I think Crutchfield used to sell them all the time, I think even 5x7s (similar to the 6x8). You can try giving them a call because they often have stuff that's not in their catalog anymore. If you try disconnecting the mids and tweeter, you'll sort of get "all bass". You're not getting more, you're just getting less treble. Also, while on the back of the coaxial are tiny components that act as bass blockers as to not blow out the tweeters and mids from low frequencies, there are no high pass filters on the main woofer. So while you'll get all bass, it's better if you try to get some sort of crossover in there to cut off the really low frequencies as well as the higher ones. You're getting more sophisticated in your approach, and that really calls for more sophisticated equipment. Coaxes aren't really developed with the same performance in mind as a sub, so they won't compare much at all. Good bass is a mixture between surface area of the cone, travel, box volume/vacuum, and tightness of the surround and coaxes in most installations lack a box volume, enough surface area, and most of all, cone travel, cause they're made to be tight for the midbass.

Have a good New Year,
Jon

 

[flyguy]

Hmm... Im doing a system upgrade in a few weeks. I was thinking about some component speakers or something... but they are expensive... If I could just get away doing the front... do I even put anything in the back? Also, they are not amped... does that make a diffrence?

nick

 

[JTang]

You don't "have" to put stuff in the rear. The rears are in such a poor position anyway, you won't really too much of a difference when driving around (at least in the front). You could upgrade, but I don't think it's worth putting anything really expensive back there unless you do some cool install for the rear passengers. Your components would sound better amped, but they'll still easily sound better than stock. If they'll sound better than coaxials will depend on where you mount the tweeters, in a better or worse position, so if you do get components, then use double sided tape, and try out multiple locations for a few days each.

Jon