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Nail in Tire, how does this happen?

Gatormike

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2013 Limited FWD
Has anyone seen this before, guy at dealer said he had never seen a nail through sidewall like this, is somebody with a nail gun ticked off at me? (This is my first time posting a pic sorry if it comes out big)

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It's like the monkeys and Shakespeare... eventually you're bound to see some wild puncture like that purely by chance.

I'm sure you happened to run over the nail from just the right angle, at just the right speed, while the suspension was in just the right point of its travel, with exactly the needed pressure in the tire and just the right outside air temperature, etc, etc, etc... to allow that particular puncture to happen! :)
 






Wow, that sucks. I managed to put a 4" tree branch through my tire once, the tire shop got a heck of a laugh lol
 






Looks like you brushed up against something with the tire by the marks in the tire itself. Sucks but I've had a few nails go in the sidewall of my edge...thankfully I had tire care on that.
 






Dayum! Were they able to save the tire?

I saw a tire once that had a pair of needle nose pliers go thru a tire like your nail!
 






They said since it was sidewall couldn't be repaired, so I just went ahead and bought a new one since it is my wife's car and have our first baby due anyday now (due date 12/24) so not taking any chances. Atleast I got 2700 miles out of it haha. To her knowledge she hasn't rubbed up against any curbs those semicircular lines are part of the tire.
 






Is your EX AWD?
 






You could have put a patch or use a tube in the tire i have had tire wall flat before and used a tube much cheeper that a tire specially if you lease
 












You could have put a patch or use a tube in the tire i have had tire wall flat before and used a tube much cheeper that a tire specially if you lease

Horrible advice!

You can't patch a hole like that in the sidewall. NEVER.

As for a tube, I'm not ever going to risk a $200 tire on a $48,000 truck.
 






WoW Never seen that before! Had a nail near the sidewall few months ago. Couldnt be "safely repaired" either. Luckily had Road Hazard. Its always nice to save $190 around Holidays. And congratz on baby due Gatormike!!!
 






I've seen a brake pad go completey go in and out of the tire just to leave the shims inside the tire. It's a good thing to have road hazard if the company has it available
 












Well I hope the EX was not an AWD...because you cannot change just one tire....You have to change all four tires to new. If you do not then you WILL damage the differential clutch packs. Any amount of wear will cause a new tire to rotate less than the tire on the other side...this will cause the differential to engage and cause premature wear on the clutches.
 






Wow nice one! Congratulations on the baby, Happy Holidays!
 






Well I hope the EX was not an AWD...because you cannot change just one tire....You have to change all four tires to new. If you do not then you WILL damage the differential clutch packs. Any amount of wear will cause a new tire to rotate less than the tire on the other side...this will cause the differential to engage and cause premature wear on the clutches.

only if it is wore out too much,, they allow for a bit of tire difference in the programming,, or it would lock the 4wd on every corner, all the time,,

and it doesn't do that ,,
 






Well I hope the EX was not an AWD...because you cannot change just one tire....You have to change all four tires to new. If you do not then you WILL damage the differential clutch packs. Any amount of wear will cause a new tire to rotate less than the tire on the other side...this will cause the differential to engage and cause premature wear on the clutches.

Not going to happen. But, I could see a dealership telling you this.

A new Hankook tire is about 10/32's of tire tread depth. After +55,000 miles on my Hankooks, I still had 4-5/32's remaining, but I wanted new rubber to get through another midwest winter. And, I've NEVER gotten more than 45,000 miles on a set of tires on any of my prior Explorers. So, I was not unwilling to buy all new tires (Bridgestone Alenza's with 11/32's). I was happy & excited to do so.

So, the point I am trying to make is that the difference with a "new" tire and an "old" tire is pretty insignificant, even after more than 55,000 miles. The smart folks in Ford's engineering group have this figured out for us.

Have you looked at the spare tire for our Explorese? It has a FAR greater size difference than the 5-6/32's I've noted above.

I DO agree with your comment; as it relates to high performance sports cars, with AWD, stability control, adjustable suspensions, low-low sidewalls and etc.
 






Well it was not the dealership that told me this it was what is taught at MMI and other ASE accredited schools. Granted if the tires only have 2500 miles on them it may be insignificant but if it has over 10000 miles on them it is enough to cause a rotational difference and drag on the differentials. On another note. on my Audi A4 Quattro I had it stated in the manual that if you get a flat and you had to get a new tire, you had to replace all for or it would void your power train warranty.

Your spare tire is for temporary use. only to get the vehicle off the road to a service station...not for driving around town for three weeks and on the highway as most people do. They have a speed limitation and the length of time you are expected to use it (states the mileage limit right on the tire) would not do any damage to your car.
 






On another note. on my Audi A4 Quattro I had it stated in the manual that if you get a flat and you had to get a new tire, you had to replace all for or it would void your power train warranty.

I think you need to re-read your Audi Owner's Manual. All 4 tires? No. Maybe both tires on that axle. Even then, Audi will state a "% of wear" much like Porsche does for my Turbo (with AWD). And, further, this has more to do with ABS and traction/stability management, than it does with the differential and viscous coupler for the AWD function.
 



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