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LOL! I was talking about cooling theory not air bubbles in the tub theory! Just funning but if you presurize a liquid it gets hotter. Allows heat transfer. Then you put it to a low presure area and it loses temp. Boils law or some **** like that!
 



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LOL! I was talking about cooling theory not air bubbles in the tub theory! Just funning but if you presurize a liquid it gets hotter. Allows heat transfer. Then you put it to a low presure area and it loses temp. Boils law or some **** like that!

I got ya now...I thought it was funny that "air rises" was being referred to as a theory.:)
 






bad news pulled both lines off and pressurized it and no bubbles started and ran it to temp for awhile no bubbles.pulled the air hoses off and drove it around no water coming out the holes where the trans line was!!!!!its got to be motor oil but from where,im 99%sure it aint the heads or the intake so that just leaves the block!!!!!
 






ok the motor is coming out next weekend but here is some yummy pic for you all and this is after flushing it MANY time and driving for 2 days only about 20miles
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well anyone that has been following any of my problems ive finally found the problem and its a cracked head!!!!yes a brand new head that is cracked!!its where the oil passage way goes from the bottom to the top to feed the rockers.it cracked in the middle of the passage way into the water jacket.a very small crack but im sure it gets bigger with heat!!!the good thing is that engine quest is sending me a brand new head and paying for the shipping!!they should be paying me for all the machine work and 2 times i had to pull this motor to find it!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:at least its found,just goes to show you always have everything tested before you put it together,dont be cheap when it comes to engines and HP!!
 






Boy, that sounds familiar..

When we build the current motor I picked up a pair of rebuilt heads from Bills cylinder head in Phoenix.

I had to drive back up to Phx to get it replaced. and then I found out that they didn't pressure test it "because someone lost the port plug".. Needless to say, I wasn't happy..

I get home, install the new set and still have oil in the water.. I took it to my machine shop, and he found a crack on it.. I called the shop in Phx.. told them it was still crap.. and then never talked to them again I just had my machine shop fix the head and all has been fine now..

Its amazing how crappy some of these shops are.. and to think I used to recommend that head shop in phx (last set of Heads I got years ago for the X was fine).. Now I bad mouth them every time I can.. Here's to hoping they close the last shop they have now (they had 3, now down to 1)..:dpchug:

~Mark
 






yea engine quest just emailed me now and before they said it was no problem that i would be sent right out but now they are saying that they want a pic of the crack "remember that its cracked inside the oil passage way" and that they will need to charge me for a new head and shipping and after they test the head and find that its cracked they would refund me my money and pay for it all..:mad::mad::fire::fire: WOW did they just get a hell of an email back to them,i cant wait to see what they have to say about that!!hah i guess we will see
 






yea engine quest just emailed me now and before they said it was no problem that i would be sent right out but now they are saying that they want a pic of the crack "remember that its cracked inside the oil passage way" and that they will need to charge me for a new head and shipping and after they test the head and find that its cracked they would refund me my money and pay for it all..:mad::mad::fire::fire: WOW did they just get a hell of an email back to them,i cant wait to see what they have to say about that!!hah i guess we will see

Especially since you have to replace the head bolts each time, and the gasket set.. Because of their issue. And if a shop had been doing the work you would out shop time too..

I don't understand companies like this. If anything, they could get the CC info "in case" you didn't send it back or it wasn't really broken and you would think if they weren't "sure" they would ask to talk to the machine shop directly.

~Mark
 






o yea this is the 3rd time these heads have been off so im allready $300 out just in gaskets and bolts.also this is the 2nd head that ive had trouble with them.thw first one was just the middle rocker hole was tapped to deep into the intake runner.could have thread sealed it but they replaced it and payed for shipping with no problem at all and was very helpful.so we will see,hopefully they will replace it!
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Glad to hear that you finally got the problem figured out, and good luck with the replacement head.
thanks man.this aint my first motor build and knew that something was wrong and man ive been catching alot of sh*t from my friends about not knowing what i was doing and hell really was starting to wonder that myself!!haha
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You seem quite educated in the ways of the motor. Mr. Murphy and his laws will get you every time. That guy's a *******.
 






well got an new email today after the one i sent yesterday
"We completely understand your situation & are not trying to make things more difficult.
I understand about the picture situation as well but speaking with our Warranty supervisor, it seems very odd that that head would crack in that spot.
With all that being said, I am sending you a replacement head out of our Chicago location today with a return call tag for UPS.
If you can tape the label on the bad head & send it back it will be appreciated.

I hope this will fix all your troubles & you can move forward with your vehicle as originally planned.

Please accept our apologies, as this is a unique situation with both heads having problems. "

so it looks like they are going to replace it:party::party: they do seem like good people they just had a brain fart:fart: i guess we will see if this ones good but you better believe it will be tested before going on the motor:banghead: but here is the catalog link,they seem to be the only people that still make true 95tm heads and they are very helpful i just have bad luck!!pg 5
http://www.aaeq.net/files/file/catalog[1].pdf
 






Glad to hear that they're not giving you a hard time on the exchange of the heads. Now if they could only be convinced to refund some of your money lost on bolts and gaskets
 






haha i wish i dont think that will happen.i really kind of want to keep the bad head because im going to be trying to make some way larger valves to go in and do some really heavy port work and a bad head is a great place to see how far i can take it!!but they want it back to test it but im going to try and get them to sell or send it back after they see its bad,o and i cant be fixed soo!!
 






After the Head is on, Motor installed and a few weeks of Shake-out. Send them a Bill for Bolts, gaskets and time. If nothing else, it'll give you a chuckle knowing someone read your Bill and sweated a bit.
Put a dollar figure on 'down time' without vehicle, Hand cleaner, misc shop supplies, hoist rental... pack it on.
 






What a pain in the arse... I have learned the hard way (well not nearly as hard as you) that when nothing makes sense, the parts you got are probably junk or worse than the one you are replacing. It's really quite sad the quality of auto parts that are available.

I've had: (for various Ford and GM products)
Freshly rebuilt "Load Tested" alternator with the passing test sheet in the box - lasted 5 seconds, battery light went on, dead. I blame the made in china voltage regulator. Had to exchange it for another, spent a lot on gas.

Rebuilt air injection pump - right angle hose nipple pressed in with the end facing the side of the other nipple. :confused: Couldn't put the hoses on. Lost a lot of cash since I bought it online and had to go get another at the local store b/c it needed to be fixed. Paid more and then had to pay shipping back.

Rebuilt master cylinder #1 - I was replacing another rebuild that the reservoir was leaking on, got it done and bled, it leaked from one of the line connections. Had a huge gouge in the line seat. Had to get a third and subsequently lost a whole day bleeding brakes.

Rebuilt master cylinder #2 - Replaced original leaking from the piston / shaft seal. Rebuild did the same thing, had to do the job again. Lost lots of time, it was a complicated one where you had to swap the reservoir.

Explorer rotors and pads - The mechanic used whatever he got from the local place. Pads fell apart in 4k, rotors turned into warped junk in 6k. Had to do it all again myself. (with motorcraft parts, the rotors weighed 1/3 more)

I think that's it, might be one or two more I am forgetting. I try to get dealer parts when its not a total ripoff, because the aftermarket is loaded with junk.
 






ok guys ,, i have the heads off of an 96 explorer because of oil in the water. (JD you replied on that thread, Thanks! ) You sound very knowledgeable here.. Where can we get the heads tested? I think someone said "have it magnafluxed" ? Its probably not something the local napa store does eh? also,, the gasket and bolt kits,, whats the best place to get that stuff?
and last but not least,, my dumb guy question.. do I have to replace both heads or just the one? The engine wass supposed to be new 20k ago and the heads look pretty good.. When you buy Quantity=1 from engine quest, that is just "1" head right?
 



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a machine shop would be able to test them,just look in your local yellow pages and call them and ask if they do pressure testing and magnafluxing.yes its like $165 for one head and more than likey both heads are cracked if they are stock.also i would sugest getting the new ones tested also!i posted the places to get the heads and gaskets on your thread and bolts are about the same anywhere you get them
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