Oversteer issue

[clayjthom]

My new 2023 Explorer Basic AWD, seems to add steering input to create a bit of oversteer. I thought it could be because the new tire tread blocks were squirming and causing it but I think the steering system is adding a boost to the turning force. Is anybody else experiencing this?

 

[peterk9]

Welcome to the Forum.
I don't recall reading any other posts here with that issue and a search only brought up your thread.
The Explorer uses what they refer to as EPAS )Electric Power Assisted Steering). I don't know if you are familiar with that or not. It replaces the hydraulic steering system. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...usg=AOvVaw2kJGN7hb9b1lcx3Eb95Log&opi=89978449
I wonder if that is what you are experiencing. If you feel uncomfortable with your new Explorer why not schedule a service appointment and have it checked out.
BTW, have you checked the tire pressures? Sometimes the dealers overlook lowering the PSI used for shipping.

Peter

 

[Sea_Ray]

My new 2023 Explorer Basic AWD, seems to add steering input to create a bit of oversteer. I thought it could be because the new tire tread blocks were squirming and causing it but I think the steering system is adding a boost to the turning force. Is anybody else experiencing this?

I Bought a Basic AWD back in 2018 ...one trip to Florida after going through the mountains was enough for me I dumped it. Not from lack of Power either It had a V6. I believe the base is undersized in brake rotors and tire size among other things.

 

[MikeHTally]

My new 2023 Explorer Basic AWD, seems to add steering input to create a bit of oversteer. I thought it could be because the new tire tread blocks were squirming and causing it but I think the steering system is adding a boost to the turning force. Is anybody else experiencing this?

I've not experienced this on mine. I keep the tires at 34 psi. There are a few decreasing-radius turns on interstate ramps here. The "advisory" speed is 25. My ST handles 60-65 with no fuss. Big concern is some idiot stopped at the bottom of the ramp.

 

[clayjthom]

Welcome to the Forum.
I don't recall reading any other posts here with that issue and a search only brought up your thread.
The Explorer uses what they refer to as EPAS )Electric Power Assisted Steering). I don't know if you are familiar with that or not. It replaces the hydraulic steering system. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwigrdi8hvj_AhUvK1kFHQcJDH8QwqsBegQIORAG&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDdEe5Tes0M&usg=AOvVaw2kJGN7hb9b1lcx3Eb95Log&opi=89978449
I wonder if that is what you are experiencing. If you feel uncomfortable with your new Explorer why not schedule a service appointment and have it checked out.
BTW, have you checked the tire pressures? Sometimes the dealers overlook lowering the PSI used for shipping.

Peter

Peter, Thanks for your reply. Yes, it must be the EPAS. My tire pressures were high on delivery. I have dropped them to 36 psi for now. The door pillar sticker suggests 33 psi. The slight oversteer is just slightly annoying to me. My big concern would be in winter driving where the last thing I want is any oversteer. It would be nice if the EPAS was tunable. I would like to turn it down a notch.

 

[slow3v]

Peter, Thanks for your reply. Yes, it must be the EPAS. My tire pressures were high on delivery. I have dropped them to 36 psi for now. The door pillar sticker suggests 33 psi. The slight oversteer is just slightly annoying to me. My big concern would be in winter driving where the last thing I want is any oversteer. It would be nice if the EPAS was tunable. I would like to turn it down a notch.

You may just be getting used to the way a RWD based platform feels vs. FWD. They do tend toward a slight oversteer condition in the snow when accelerating from a stop, FYI. Understeer terrifies me, I'd take oversteer any day - but that's only the case for more experienced drivers. YMMV.

 

[clayjthom]

You may just be getting used to the way a RWD based platform feels vs. FWD. They do tend toward a slight oversteer condition in the snow when accelerating from a stop, FYI. Understeer terrifies me, I'd take oversteer any day - but that's only the case for more experienced drivers. YMMV.

My Explorer is AWD. I see now how to turn off the lane assist feature. I will drive it today and see if that is the cause of the slight oversteer issue.

 

[themishmosh]

Yeah, shouldn't be adding steering input unless the lane centering is kicking in. Many turn it off because they find it unnerving. The Explorer still has understeer despite being rear wheel biased.

 

[clayjthom]

Yeah, shouldn't be adding steering input unless the lane centering is kicking in. Many turn it off because they find it unnerving. The Explorer does still has understeer despite being rear wheel biased.

Yeah, shouldn't be adding steering input unless the lane centering is kicking in. Many turn it off because they find it unnerving. The Explorer does still has understeer despite being rear wheel biased.

Yup, after disconnecting the lane centering app, steering is perfect. Now, I am still looking for the driver alert button. Looks like I get a steaming cup of coffee with that feature.

 

[blwnsmoke]

My Explorer is AWD. I see now how to turn off the lane assist feature. I will drive it today and see if that is the cause of the slight oversteer issue.

It is AWD only when needed. As stated, it is RWD based.

 

[clayjthom]

It is AWD only when needed. As stated, it is RWD based.

Yes, I see that on the display. Pretty amazing.